There is a world somewhere between reality and fiction. Although ignored by many, it is very real and so are those living in it. This forum is about the natural world. Here, wild animals will be heard and respected. The forum offers a glimpse into an unknown world as well as a room with a view on the present and the future. Anyone able to speak on behalf of those living in the emerald forest and the deep blue sea is invited to join.
--- Peter Broekhuijsen ---

  • 1 Vote(s) - 5 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Lions of Manyeleti

United States criollo2mil Offline
Contributor
*****

The Battle Hardened Red Road Male



“ The hardest walk is walking alone, but it's also the walk that makes you the strongest." - unknown “

15 users Like criollo2mil's post
Reply

United States afortich Offline
Contributor
*****

(09-22-2023, 10:10 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: “ The hardest walk is walking alone, but it's also the walk that makes you the strongest." 

Absolutely true.
4 users Like afortich's post
Reply

Panama Mapokser Offline
Contributor
*****
( This post was last modified: 09-23-2023, 01:12 AM by Mapokser )

It's an interesting discussion the one if solitary lions are usually stronger in a clash than coalition members or even if there's any difference.

I think that a coalition member who loses all his partners suffers a huge blow in terms of confidence tho.
2 users Like Mapokser's post
Reply

Tr1x24 Offline
Top Contributor
******

(09-22-2023, 11:17 PM)Mapokser Wrote: It's an interesting discussion the one if solitary lions are usually stronger in a clash than coalition members or even if there's any difference.

It prob depends individually.

We can also argue that male in a coalition is more battle hardened and more experienced in a fight as he is fighting his partners/brothers quite often, unlike solo males, who has nobody to fight with, except smacking lionesses here and there.
3 users Like Tr1x24's post
Reply

Panama Mapokser Offline
Contributor
*****

Coalition partners 100% have more battle experience. But if they will be on average more willing to charge 1v1 than a solo lion idk.
4 users Like Mapokser's post
Reply

Hairy tummy Offline
Senior Member
****

(09-20-2023, 07:13 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Manyeleti 2010, credits to Drizzle Jordaan.

Are these the Old Birmingham and Mabande? The fathers of the 5 Bboys.


*This image is copyright of its original author



*This image is copyright of its original author
Is one lf these guys on the original post of the 'lions of sabi sands',thread?
1 user Likes Hairy tummy's post
Reply

Panama Mapokser Offline
Contributor
*****
( This post was last modified: 09-24-2023, 12:32 AM by Mapokser )

@Hairy tummy Not really, the lion lying down was the partner of the lion you're talking about, who was weighed at 283kg with a full stomach.

The 283kg lion died and his partner joined this Old Birmingham male who's standing.
2 users Like Mapokser's post
Reply

Poland Potato Offline
Contributor
*****

(09-24-2023, 12:32 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Not really, the lion lying down was the partner of the lion you're talking about, who was weighed at 283kg with a full stomach.
No, it is not Mabande male. Those are old Birmingham males.
4 users Like Potato's post
Reply

United States BA0701 Offline
Super Moderator
******

Mandevu, Lambile, and a lioness with a zebra kill.




9 users Like BA0701's post
Reply

Poland Potato Offline
Contributor
*****

(09-24-2023, 11:16 AM)Potato Wrote:
(09-24-2023, 12:32 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Not really, the lion lying down was the partner of the lion you're talking about, who was weighed at 283kg with a full stomach.
No, it is not Mabande male. Those are old Birmingham males.

Mabande was bald male. Here he is with smudge old Birmingham:


*This image is copyright of its original author



A bit of a throwback since we got on to this topic.
3 users Like Potato's post
Reply

United States BA0701 Offline
Super Moderator
******
( This post was last modified: 09-27-2023, 09:20 PM by BA0701 )

Mbiri Males have returned to Tintswalo, appears they have chased the Mbiri Pride. Also Red Road, mentions fight with the Kruger Male, and says they do not believe Red Road was who fought with S8, but that they believe he fought with the BDMs. Honestly, given what we have seen, with them doing some chasing previously, that does indeed make sense.




4 users Like BA0701's post
Reply

United States criollo2mil Offline
Contributor
*****

(09-27-2023, 09:16 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Mbiri Males have returned to Tintswalo, appears they have chased the Mbiri Pride. Also Red Road, mentions fight with the Kruger Male, and says they do not believe Red Road was who fought with S8, but that they believe he fought with the BDMs. Honestly, given what we have seen, with them doing some chasing previously, that does indeed make sense.





Sighting was approximately around 17 September.   They were captured by Vestment also and they left the next day

Attached Files Image(s)
   
4 users Like criollo2mil's post
Reply

United States BA0701 Offline
Super Moderator
******
( This post was last modified: 09-27-2023, 09:40 PM by BA0701 )

(09-27-2023, 09:35 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:
(09-27-2023, 09:16 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Mbiri Males have returned to Tintswalo, appears they have chased the Mbiri Pride. Also Red Road, mentions fight with the Kruger Male, and says they do not believe Red Road was who fought with S8, but that they believe he fought with the BDMs. Honestly, given what we have seen, with them doing some chasing previously, that does indeed make sense.





Sighting was approximately around 17 September.   They were captured by Vestment also and they left the next day

Ah, ok, yeah the delay in the video release that happens so often. The video was just dropped like 18 minutes before I posted it. I wonder where they went from there. I know he said Lambile and Mandevu were off at the time, hopefully they have returned by now.
1 user Likes BA0701's post
Reply

Panama Mapokser Offline
Contributor
*****
( This post was last modified: 09-28-2023, 02:16 AM by Mapokser )

S8 only had injuries on his face, he only fought one lion.

BDM to my knowledge had no injuries at all, could 1/2 have dominated S8 to such an extent? I'd be very surprised if this was the case.
3 users Like Mapokser's post
Reply

Tr1x24 Offline
Top Contributor
******
( This post was last modified: 09-28-2023, 01:49 AM by Tr1x24 )

(09-28-2023, 12:03 AM)Mapokser Wrote: BDM to my knowledge had no injuries at all, could 1/2 have dominated S8 to such an extent? I'd be very surprised if that was the case.


Again, if he sustained worse injury (which was basically 1 bite), it doesnt mean he was dominated or that he lost the fight.

S8 is prob around  or close to 12 yrs old, BDMs are 6 and entering prime years, so i dont see reason why BDM could not match or even best aging S8. 

Anyways, we will never know with 100% who caused that injury.
2 users Like Tr1x24's post
Reply






Users browsing this thread:
13 Guest(s)

About Us
Go Social     Subscribe  

Welcome to WILDFACT forum, a website that focuses on sharing the joy that wildlife has on offer. We welcome all wildlife lovers to join us in sharing that joy. As a member you can share your research, knowledge and experience on animals with the community.
wildfact.com is intended to serve as an online resource for wildlife lovers of all skill levels from beginners to professionals and from all fields that belong to wildlife anyhow. Our focus area is wild animals from all over world. Content generated here will help showcase the work of wildlife experts and lovers to the world. We believe by the help of your informative article and content we will succeed to educate the world, how these beautiful animals are important to survival of all man kind.
Many thanks for visiting wildfact.com. We hope you will keep visiting wildfact regularly and will refer other members who have passion for wildlife.

Forum software by © MyBB