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(11-08-2021, 07:36 PM)Mdz123 Wrote:
(11-08-2021, 07:20 PM)Timbavati Wrote:
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A take-over is imminent.

Full video coming soon.

I cannot see the video. I presume its N. Avocas chasing Bboys?
  1. Three of the 4 N'waswitshaka males. Ubuso, Amahle and Eorenji
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Where is Gore, why he isn't with them? 

My only theory is due to his stomach wound he doesn't want to fight or anything like that..
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(11-08-2021, 07:58 PM)lionuk Wrote: Where is Gore, why he isn't with them? 

My only theory is due to his stomach wound he doesn't want to fight or anything like that..

Might be, althrough he was seen chasing 2 Sand River young males with Wide Nose in Kruger in the past.. Maybe he just cant keep up with them on that pace because of injury. 

Also, out of the 4, he has the least "bond" with others, he is often seen separated, even when he is with other 3 he is always aside, rarely bonding with them, as we see even now in Londolozi :


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(11-08-2021, 08:20 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(11-08-2021, 07:58 PM)lionuk Wrote: Where is Gore, why he isn't with them? 

My only theory is due to his stomach wound he doesn't want to fight or anything like that..

Might be, althrough he was seen chasing 2 Sand River young males with Wide Nose in Kruger in the past.. Maybe he just cant keep up with them on that pace because of injury. 

Also, out of the 4, he has the least "bond" with others, he is often seen separated, even when he is with other 3 he is always aside, rarely bonding with them, as we see even now in Londolozi :


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A similar kind of what happened with Hip-Scar. At one point, Hip-Scar  stop of spending time with the other Majingilane males.
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We're only seeing a small fraction of their time together, I wouldn't say he has the least bond of the 4 just based on few pictures, maybe he's the one bonding the most with the others off-camera, who knows ?
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(11-08-2021, 08:25 PM)Timbavati Wrote: A similar kind of what happened with Hip-Scar. At one point, Hip-Scar  stop of spending time with the other Majingilane males.

Injured males are not as strong/confident as their brothers, so they are getting dominated/beaten by healthy ones at kills or for females, so they prefer to hang away from them and hang with specific pride where they can get more share of a food and have less competition. 

For example, on that Nwaswitshaka fight video, Gore needed to fight and got hammered by both Wide Nose and Amahle before he eventually steal's a kill.
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(11-08-2021, 08:28 PM)WildRev Wrote: We're only seeing a small fraction of their time together, I wouldn't say he has the least bond of the 4 just based on few pictures, maybe he's the one bonding the most with the others off-camera, who knows ?

Im saying that based of what we see, might not be the case yea.
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Damn, it’s finally happening. They could have chased away Blondie and Mohawk too who ventured south of Londolozi … but at the end of the day bad news for the Kambula pride. Hopefully all the boys get out of each other’s way and settle this by just roaring and chasing.
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Update: 

Yesterday evening had a very vocal Gowrie male  'Nhenha' returning an unknown lions’ calls
Dark Mane avoca also very vocal on the Londolozi boundary near the MM airstrip 

This morning the other two Avoca males were reported to have been chased by the 4 Nwawistshaka/Ndhzenga males in Londolozi across into MM. Didn’t see the Ndzhengas but got the Northern Avocas sitting and vocalising. 
The Ndzhengas have pushed very far north in past few days and Dark mane fairly far south. 

The two Gowrie males are stuck in no male's land.
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(11-08-2021, 09:20 PM)Timbavati Wrote: Update: 

Yesterday evening had a very vocal Gowrie male  'Nhenha' returning an unknown lions’ calls
Dark Mane avoca also very vocal on the Londolozi boundary near the MM airstrip 

This morning the other two Avoca males were reported to have been chased by the 4 Nwawistshaka/Ndhzenga males in Londolozi across into MM. Didn’t see the Ndzhengas but got the Northern Avocas sitting and vocalising. 
The Ndzhengas have pushed very far north in past few days and Dark mane fairly far south. 

The two Gowrie males are stuck in no male's land

This is madness, 3 coalitions clashing? DM at MalaMala airstrip /central Londolozi?? He came to help?
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Next few days are going to be very interesting. A clash amongst sabi sands coalitions must be imminent
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I hope this serves as an impulse for DarkMane to join his brothers and doesn't end up causing damage to the puppies and sub adults in the region, Bboys seem more spectators for now
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DM returned north today so apparently he didn’t find his brothers. I think he will eventually rejoin them but this goes to show you we don’t know half of what happens at nighttime. 

I don’t think the Avocas should compete with the N’W (who are in their prime now) even as a coalition of 3… that’s still a disadvantage. I called them brave but they are hopefully not brave and foolish. 

Bboys…  This really is a bad situation for them but at the end of the day males can simply leave their territory… cubs can’t so I’m not optimistic about the cubs.
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(11-08-2021, 10:00 PM)Gijima Wrote: DM returned north today so apparently he didn’t find his brothers. I think he will eventually rejoin them but this goes to show you we don’t know half of what happens at nighttime. 

I don’t think the Avocas should compete with the N’W (who are in their prime now) even as a coalition of 3… that’s still a disadvantage. I called them brave but they are hopefully not brave and foolish. 

Well, 3vs4 is definetly much better odds then 2vs4, and its questionable how much Gore can contribute in actuall scirmish, N'ws might not be as brave if they hear 3 males roaring together. But Avocas also have 2 limping members, so yea, we actually dont know how it could play out.

(11-08-2021, 10:00 PM)Gijima Wrote: Bboys…  This really is a bad situation for them but at the end of the day males can simply leave their territory… cubs can’t so I’m not optimistic about the cubs.

Currently N'ws are in Londolozi, Kambulas with cubs are over the river around Rattray's Camp in MalaMala, they could move further east a bit as thats empty area with no prides or dominant males atm, if N'ws cross the river into MalaMala. But if N'ws follow them, yea its doomed for Bboys and cubs..
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