Lions of Sabi Sands

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(04-04-2024, 01:46 AM)Mapokser Wrote:

(04-04-2024, 12:30 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(04-03-2024, 10:32 PM)Mapokser Wrote: @Tr1x24 I didn't say the other duos took territory from the BDM ( because they didn't want to ), I said they couldn't defend it from the opposition.

My point is that they don't seem to have what it takes to put any resistance against other duos. If they were to become successful, they'd need to be lucky enough to have no other coalition to pressure them.

BDMs didnt lost to any duo, chasing on borders back and forth between neighbours hardly matters, neither of their neighbours pressure them or anything, in fact, they pressured Ndhzengas when they arrived, but Ndhzengas succesfully defended themselves.

Things change quickly in lions life, yes, BDMs dont look particulary strong atm (as i said already) but in ~1 year of their territorial position, they didnt had any problems until arrival of 4 Kambulas and if that didnt happen, would prob still be territorial, their neighbouring duos dont matter in that story.

Anyways, looks like Kambulas are back north, lets see what happens this time.

Getting chased is a loss.

Chasing back and forth, yes, but the BDM never chased anyone back, they were always the ones getting chased. The only territorial male they chased was the S8 male, they lost to him once and beat him in another occasion, and S8 was a lone 11yo male.

Prime duos that have been together their entire life are expected to at least be strong enough to give a challenge to any other duo, but it seems the only duos the BDM are able to confront are 4yo nomads like the Talamatis back in the day.

If the PCM, Gijima, Mantimahle or Ndhzenga were to meet, no one knows what'd happen but at least it'd be a challenge, it's unlikely any would dominate the other one easily/without any sort of resistance. However any of these 4 duos would not even register the BDM as a threat.

The BDM were dominant for 1 year, but only because nobody tried to pressure them. If in the future they become dominant again, it's likely they'll be successful if they aren't luck enough to not have any territorial coalitions putting pressure, which is my point.

Even Nhenha and NK who are considered a weak coalition put some resistance against the mighty PCM in their first clash as territorial males, and although later they were semi-nomadic and would always ran easily, they'd still keep challenging the PCM with their roars.

GUYS LOOK. i am not sure aboth the others....but all this back and forth talk about who is and who isnt winning is all boring and exhaustive. I never like to predict behavior or make too much about short term activities cause as we know things in Lion Dynamis can turn on a dime!!!

this is why if you notice, i don't get into the "oh yeah, these males are more powerful, or no, those are YADA YADA" that's just not my cup of tea.

lets just let things play out and report on the results.

I myself am more interested in knowing why if this reported sighting happened, why dont we have a single photo or video of the males either before or after.

I suspect there's been some mis-reporting or mis interpretation of events. even Cedric (who is the supposed source of the events) changed his story several times changing the ID on who was involved.


the Northern Sabi Sand, Mala Mala and Djuma are among the MOST COVERED areas in Kruger at large, yet we have ZERO evidence of these males activities.....sorry but I cant reconcile that. and I am not certain what we have heard is the full or true story yet.

I certainly stand to be corrected....but then at least its due to actual evidence. Reply