Canids and Hyaenids Interactions

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(02-10-2015, 04:03 AM)'Pantherinae' Wrote: Pckts I would say bears are way stronger than both lions and tigers, but I have many photagrapher friends who has seen wolves and bears co feeding and walk almost side by side without any aggression, and wolves are quicker and faster than hyenas and Lions are faster than bears. Aswell as You will never see a wild dog pack feed alongside a lion. Cat's are a far more dangerous apponent than bears for dogs to approatch! 
Hyenas does probably not have the same stamina as a wolf, but they does have a good stamina aswell. I've seen hyenas dragning a fully grown zebra, and a dead lion like it was Nothing, aswell as walking with a fully grown impala without The impala toutching the ground! So yes I would bet alot off money on hyenas being a stronger animal, even though they are about The same size a hyena is buildt more powerfull, even though a wolf is strong aswell, there's alot of examples of animals about The same size as one another and one animal is much stronger than The other (leopard and cheetah is an example) no studies, but use you're eys and You will see a hyena surviving a male lion attack, a wolf would not have a chance! Aswell as surviving attacks from multiple lionesses, there a wolf would have died!

aswell as I can use an example a young adult male leopard is strangeling a hyena cub while it's hanging in a tree, and The hyena cub last's quite some time before it dies! A adult jackal(not a wolf, but a canidae) is dead in a matter of seconds when a young female leopard attacks it.
So that a adult spotted hyena would beat a wolf I have no doubts about! 

 

You bring up an intersting idea when comparing the strength of a Cheetah to a Leopard. And yes, both are similar in weight. But that is where the similarities end, the dimensions of their frames are completely different. Cheetah stand far taller at the shoulder, they have longer bodies and limbs. A leopard is far more compact with most of its weight in their neck, chest, head and limbs.

Now when we compare hyena and wolf, they are fairly similar in shoulder height and body length. Their strength is impossible to try and say one is more than the other. Wolves taking down Bison is far more impressive than hyena taking down Wilda beast but that ties into hunting more so than anything else.

"aswell as I can use an example a young adult male leopard is strangling a hyena cub while it's hanging in a tree, and The hyena cub last's quite some time before it dies! A adult jackal(not a wolf, but a canidae) is dead in a matter of seconds when a young female leopard attacks it."

Animals of all degrees have survived strangulation or dyer situations, every death attempt is different. I have seen hyenas killed in a matter of seconds by lions as well. I have seen leopards put a hyena unconscious in seconds as well, so there are situations for every account.

Lets compare leopard attacks to puma attacks, both are similar in size and wolf and hyena have and does survive their attacks quite often. More proof of both of their durability, being strangled has nothing to do with "durability". It is simply the lack of oxygen needed to keep the brain conscious. A better grip will stop the oxygen flow quicker and if held for long enough, every mammal will die. Oxygen is the necessity for all mammals. I have seen wolves take hoof attacks from moose and still complete the kill. You can find examples of both.

So obviously this statement
"So that a adult spotted hyena would beat a wolf I have no doubts about! "
is without merit since there is absolutely no way you would know for sure.



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