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Another good point GrizzlyClaws. There is no evidence of intermix of Panthera spelaea and Panthera leo, even more impressive, there is also no evidence of intermix between Panthera spelaea and Panthera atrox at 35,000 years ago! If this is no evidence that this were two different species, I don’t know what more could be.
Sadly, eminent Paleontologists like Helmut Hemmer still support the old point of view (all are lions) and prefer to ignore the genetic analysis. However, the same ambiguity of these scientists is a problem. For example Dr Ross Barnett present clear conclusions that Panthera atrox and others are not lions per se, but he still put the name “leo” in the document, which is a clear contradiction. Even worst, in a popular document from him, he states a completely different opinion, saying that all of them are lions and simply ignoring his previous conclusions, with that of its team. [img]images/smilies/dodgy.gif[/img]
Russian scientists, on the other hand, have found that all these were different species, based in superficial and now in deep morphological differences and interpreting the original conclusions of Barnett et al. (2009), the genetic analysis, although partial (they only use mitochondrial DNA), support this point of view.