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The Java Tiger (Panthera tigris sondaica)

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The Java Tiger (Panthera tigris sondaica)

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12-30-2018, 08:35 PM

(05-27-2018, 05:01 AM)Rishi Wrote: Was the "Bali Tiger" ever even an actual thing? Were there any genetic studies to ascertain their subspecies status, like it happened with the Malayan tigers?

The isles of Java & Bali are separated from each other by only a narrow straight, less then 2km wide at its narrowest today! 

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This is how close Bali is to Java...

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There's a strong possibility that the two were connected until the last Ice Age ended 10k years ago. Isn't that little time not enough to develop into a completely new subspecies?

Also that should have been crossably narrow at low-tide in historical times. Could it be that Bali tigers were to Java tigers, merely what Sundarban tigers are to Bengal tigers?

There is no doubt that tiger do lived in Bali, but its "subspecies" status and its claimed size is very doubtfull.

To be honest, we only know 5 skulls of female specimens (one is even a subadult - Senckenberg Museum No. 2576) and 3 males, togheter with a few skins that do not represent the real size of the previous owner. Measurements from hunters gathered by Sody suggest animals of the same size than those of the other islands (excluding the 300 cm specimen, which is an exageration or a skin measurement). In fact, there is no good information to claim that the Bali tiger was so small as Mazák suggested.

We must remember that there are no real measurements from Bali tigers except from the large Gondol male, which was of the same size that an Sumatran/Javan tiger, its skull fits very well with the other populations. Also, if we check the size of the specimens hunted in litterature, they are not small at all, they match the size of the Sumatra/Java male tigers, again.

Give me time and I promises that today I will post all the information about the size and DNA studies of the Bali tiger that I have. Like
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RE: The Java Tiger (Panthera tigris sondaica) - GuateGojira - 12-30-2018, 08:35 PM
Return of The Java Tiger? - phatio - 05-08-2019, 10:01 AM
Bali Tigers in Color - phatio - 02-03-2021, 09:02 PM



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