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Bear and bigcats anatomy

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(09-24-2018, 02:29 AM)GrizzlyClaws Wrote:
(09-24-2018, 01:12 AM)epaiva Wrote: Liger skull
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Super massive, I guess the skull should weigh about 9 pounds after being cleaned up and dried.

@peter does liger have proportionally denser skull than its parents?

I've seen ligers and tigons. Ligers often are larger and more robust than tigons. In many cases, lion features dominate. In the skulls I saw, things are a bit different. In most cases, the mandibula was lionlike (convex). The 'snout', however, was more tigerlike (relatively short and a bit vaulted). Same for the canines (large). The rostrum, however, often was lionlike (straight). Not one of the skulls I saw was exceptional in size and most were not as dense (heavy) as similar-sized skulls of wild lions and tigers.  

A few months ago, I found a book on the internet. Although published a long time ago, it was an interesting read. One of the chapters, written by a zoologist, has a lengthy description of a liger skull. I'll post it when I have more time. 

The heaviest skulls I saw were just over 5 pounds (2,268 kg.). Skulls of wild big cats often are relatively heavier than skulls of big cats born and raised in captivity. An exceptional skull of a wild lion or tiger might exceed 6 pounds, maybe 7. I've never measured a skull of exceptional size, but I do know that large skulls of wild big cats often are relatively heavier than average-sized skulls. 

Ligers are known for their size. Some males exceed 10 feet straight and 700 pounds. Although the relation between skull-size and weight is rather weak in big cats, it is to be expected that some exceptional individuals will produce an exceptional skull. The skull discussed is very large in all respects. The exceptional width no doubt is a result of captivity.
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