Big cat and Bear tale

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(12-27-2016, 07:23 PM)Polar Wrote:

(12-27-2016, 06:24 PM)parvez Wrote: Due to the presence of tigers and even leopards sometimes, bears in indian subcontinent (sloth bear and asiatic black bear) are known to be extra aggressive than other species of bears. They are known to be vicious fighters. So, i assumed one of them should be strongest pound for pound. But I am really not sure. If you have any studies regarding which bear is the strongest pound for pound i would be glad to read it. You may be right no one knows the truth until studies are published. But i agree grizzly bear has massive shoulder hump. But it should also be remembered that they have thick hairy fur covering all over the body. Also, they have around several inches thick fat layer all over the body. So, the hump is not as impressive as it appears to be. Not trying to make this a versus debate, but check out these massive specimens, i find these tigers to be having the biggest shoulder humps in all carnivorous or  omnivorous world with some exceptions of grizzlies almost touching the level. Perhaps you can state your opinion if you agree or not,

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Impressive shoulder hump on grizzlies,

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Tigers (and big cats in general) have shoulder blades with little to no muscle in between them, just like in the pictures you posted. Even larger tigers still have this same feature.

Smaller brown bears have similar shoulder hump muscle feature as larger brown bears, just like in the pictures you posted. You sort of proved yourself wrong.

Sometimes, the fur may make the grizzly's shoulder hump appear larger than it is, but point is the shoulder hump is a natural, morphological feature of bears in general. Trust me on this, I felt a mound of shoulder muscle on polar bears (although not as big as brown bears) too in my 2014 PBI trip.

Also, an aggressive bear isn't stronger than an already strong bear. A mad human isn't pound-for-pound stronger than a calmer chimpanzee.

There was this guy on youtube from Russia who was a bear fan, he was posting all kind of accounts, of bear and tiger fights, it seems from what is out there, the bear is superior to the tiger in a fight, including small bears like sloth bears.  Now I would not ordinarily expect that, because I'd back a same size tiger vs a same size bear, but from what I saw in the accounts, the bears are tougher, and they fight stronger, even small bears. Reply