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08-01-2014, 10:52 AM( This post was last modified: 08-01-2014, 10:53 AM by GuateGojira )
(07-31-2014, 09:06 PM)'Pantherinae' Wrote:
'GuateGojira dateline='' Wrote: Not only not-adjusted, but also unconfirmed. Two other persons contacted Richard Kock and he give two different answers (one saying that it was possible true, and other saying that he has no idea of the record), however, in both communications he clearly stated that he don't even remember the record, so it is unclear where Nowell & Jackson (1996) get that figure. It is interesting that this is not the only mistake in that book, they also quoted some leopard records incorrectly.
Even worst, the Kenya Wildlife Service, which is the one that keep the records in the country, confirmed that the heaviest male lion in they records was a male of 230 kg hunted in the Aberdares NP, and this is confirmed by Dr Bruce Patterson in his book "The Tsavo Lions" (2003).
Are lions up to 272 kg in hunting records? Yes, but certainly there is no such thing as a 600 lb male in Kenya, and even less in scientific records.
It's true what you are saying hunting records are IMO not always smart to belive! I have heard that myself that the heaviest lion in Kenya is 230 kg. But there was one lion weighed 280 kg scaled down to 553 kg and one other lion who was weighed 260 with about 20 kg of stomack content. so scaled down to 240 kg. Those looks quite reliable aswell!
You are correct. There is a South African lion that weighed 280 kg full of beef, so its estimated weight empty was of c.250 kg, discarding about 30 kg of beef at it. The other record is a male from Etosha NP, which weighed 260 kg, but Dr Hu Berry said that it had at least 20 kg of beef, so he estimated its weight at c.240 kg empty.
So, these two scientific records of 250 kg and 240 kg empty belly are real and reliable for the lion side, but take in count that both are from Southern Africa. This suggest that this lion population reach larger sizes than those of East Africa.