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(09-11-2024, 10:27 PM)Mapokser Wrote: I can't say if that is DM by those photos, nor can I say if it is from August 2006.
We do, however, have photos of Matimbas and sisters as cubs around this time and when Majingis and Matimbas clashed in August 2011, Cedric, a northern ranger, said at the time, in his report of the clash "Matimbas are big in body but Majingilanes are older, about a year".
That would make the Birmingham Matimbas ( but HB who was younger ) 5yo at that time, same as Majingilane if that was DM in August 2006, in fact Matimbas might even be slightly older since DM was thought to be a bit older than some of his brothers.
Could the Majingilane be much more well developed for their age to make them look a year older than the Matimbas, lions known for being precocious, with great genes for mane and developing? Seems unlike to me.
Also, that would make the Majingilane barely 4yo when they ousted the Mapogos, which also seems very unlikely. Not to say they would be only 11yo when they died in early 2018 of old age despite having a huge territory and 2 prides while not being pressured by any rivals.
Not declaring, or even speculating on their actual age, as I have no evidence to say one way or another, but all I can say is that the Majins looked young when they killed KT, and did not appear to be over 5, if they were even 5 when that happened. Given the impressive beasts they all grew into, it seems, to me, that they may have been no older than 5 at that time, perhaps even younger. As that recent video by James Miller even states, it seems that very fight was when those boys gained their overwhelming confidence, almost like it gave them the proof they needed to know what they were actually capable of. It appears, to my untrained eyes, that the 5th looked to be the oldest of them, perhaps the biggest as well, and he did not look any older than 5 either.
KT confronted them while he was alone, though he had an injured foot from his fight with their brother earlier in the day, which that fight, no doubt, lead to him brimming with confidence as well, enough that he confronted 4 males while by himself. That video also shows a screen grab from the fight where KT was killed, when Mr T came rushing in, only to realize he was being confronted by a superior force. For a fighter like Mr. T to back down in any fight, speaks volumes, and it surely had to have had an effect on the young males as well, as it looks from the picture that it was SN who was face to face with Mr T when he ran.