Mangheni Pride

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(07-24-2024, 08:39 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Majingis sired their Tsalala cubs in 2011 and only abandoned Londolozi in 2014 after ousting the Selatis.

Their offspring in Tsalala pride was born in 2013, and got abandoned in 2014.

(07-24-2024, 08:39 AM)Mapokser Wrote: It's a simple fact that any lion researcher will tell you: cubs are not generally successfully raised without a constant protection from strong males.

We see that all the time. Why aren't any of S8's offspring alive? Why only 2 Othawas miraculously survived? According to you they should have been fine without fathers at 1,5yo since even 1yo cubs should be fine being abandoned by their fathers.

This is not what i said lol, ofc that cubs will have more success under protection..

Im just saying that abandoning cubs at young age is normal behavior for male coalitions (I didnt said its GOOD behaviour for the offspring) especially powerful coalition who can expand easily.

Just put it on paper, how many of those coalitions you named, abandoned prides and young offspring, and with how many they stayed and sired 2nd generation (because they had no other option) and you will see.

Both Majingas and Bboys sired 2nd generation in those prides because they where getting old, weaker in numbers and had no better options, so they stayed there.

They didnt stayed because they wanted to protect their 1st offspring to reach adulthood, if that would be the case, they would not abandom all those former prides and their young offspring before that, would they? Reply