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Talamati/Msutlu Pride

Portugal Rui Ferreira Offline
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(07-11-2024, 12:04 AM)Duco Ndona Wrote: It seems everyone is moving to the west these days. 

Prides are founded around social political structures and not bloodlines.
So even if for example Ximhungwe were to die. Gingerella would still directly continue the Ximhungwe prides position in the local lion dynamics and thus will still be considered the Ximhungwe pride.
While in the Talamatis case. The group with the strongest genetic representation left the old group formed a new pride while the least Talamati group continued the original one.

The reason I asked was because lets pretend ( god forbid) K12 is the only who can produce offspring long enough to continue the pride, some years later we have something like 
"this is the msultu pride, the entire pride is descendant of the Talamati pride" 
"This is the Talamati pride, they barely have anything to do with the msultu pride genetic wise" 
Its something we cant say about Nkuhumas and Talamatis nor Manghenis and Kambulas because they descend from the same lions 
(I dont really have any problem with the names staying like that , but I think its an interesting topic to debate)
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Talamati/Msutlu Pride - BA0701 - 04-23-2024, 07:53 AM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - Mapokser - 04-23-2024, 09:53 AM
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RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - Ponce - 04-24-2024, 04:02 AM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - BA0701 - 04-24-2024, 05:33 AM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - Maghreb - 04-24-2024, 06:52 AM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - Tr1x24 - 04-24-2024, 04:17 PM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - BA0701 - 04-24-2024, 07:08 PM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - criollo2mil - 04-24-2024, 06:25 PM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - Friarfan619 - 04-24-2024, 10:10 PM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - T_Ferguson - 04-24-2024, 06:44 PM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - Tr1x24 - 04-24-2024, 10:30 PM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - T I N O - 04-25-2024, 02:26 AM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - criollo2mil - 05-17-2024, 09:54 PM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - BA0701 - 05-17-2024, 10:00 PM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - Ngonya - 04-25-2024, 02:39 AM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - Ngonya - 04-25-2024, 02:51 AM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - criollo2mil - 04-25-2024, 08:38 PM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - criollo2mil - 04-25-2024, 08:48 PM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - BA0701 - 04-25-2024, 08:52 PM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - Maghreb - 04-28-2024, 07:31 PM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - Tr1x24 - 04-25-2024, 08:59 PM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - criollo2mil - 04-25-2024, 10:23 PM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - criollo2mil - 04-26-2024, 12:57 AM
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RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - Ttimemarti - 04-26-2024, 02:56 AM
RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - Friarfan619 - 04-26-2024, 09:03 AM
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RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - criollo2mil - 04-29-2024, 05:19 PM
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RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - KM600 - 05-11-2024, 01:00 AM
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RE: Talamati/Msutlu Pride - Ttimemarti - 05-17-2024, 06:38 AM
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