Talamati/Msutlu Pride

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(05-23-2024, 10:50 PM)T I N O Wrote: In 2021, the Imbali takeover occurred. The Imbali male sensed that Dark Mane was alone and attempted to claim the Talamati Pride as his own. During this takeover, 2 females were killed by the Imbali males and 1 male lion disappeared. This takeover caused the Talamati Pride to split in two, which is how we see them today.
Talamati Main Pride[/color]

• 4 Lionesses: Born late 2018/early 2019, sired by Avoca males
• Blue-eyed/Silver-eyed Female lioness: Born around 2007/2008
• 2 young adult males: Born late 2018/early 2019, sired by Avoca males
  

Talamati Breakaway Pride

• 2 Lionesses: Born around 2014, sired by Selati males
• 1 Lioness: Born around 2012, sire Unknown
• 5 Cubs: Born around January 2022, sired by the S8 male
• S8 Male: Born around 2014
  

The Talamati breakaways are comprised of 3 females with 5 cubs. They are located in south Manyeleti, Buffelshoek and the far northern part of Djuma.
The S8 male is the father of all the cubs, and is responsible for the safety of those cubs and the females. He looks after the territory on which they currently reside.

Arathusa has a few details wrong, let me provide caveat and context:

(05-23-2024, 10:50 PM)T I N O Wrote: During this takeover, 2 females were killed by the Imbali males and 1 male lion disappeared.

1 Female and 1 Male Sub adult offsprings of the Avocas Disappeared.   no Adults were killed by S8 Male.  Not sure where that comes from.

(05-23-2024, 10:50 PM)T I N O Wrote: [*]4 Lionesses: Born late 2018/early 2019, sired by Avoca males
[*]Blue-eyed/Silver-eyed Female lioness: Born around 2007/2008
[*]2 young adult males: Born late 2018/early 2019, sired by Avoca males

They are missing the Sister of Silver Eye also born Appx 2007/08 and Also are missing one Avoca Daughter.  in 2021, there were 5 Sub Adult Females in this group.

(05-23-2024, 10:50 PM)T I N O Wrote: There are 4 lionesses and 2 young males. The silver-eyed female has been on her own for a while now, but when she joins the pride there are 5 lionesses.
The Talamati Main Pride has moved more to the area west-south-west of Arathusa.
Dark Mane is also occasionally found with these Talamatis.

as stated above, their numbers are off for the 2021 Period.   After the takeover of S8 of the three Talamati females , the Talamati larger group Consisted of:

2 Lionesses (Silvereye and Sister), 5 Avoca daughters and 2 Avoca Sons.

in April of 2022, one of the Avoca Daughters known as Stompie disappeared.  
Later towards the end of that Year, Silvereye went away to live her final days.  
About a year Later, her sister did the Same and Left us around October 2023.  
We then saw the Two Sons of Avocas finallyleave their sisters.   Sadly, The Larger Maned boy disappeared in December 2023.

Leaving 4 Avoca daughters alive that would ultimately comprise the Msuthlu Pride today. Reply