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(09-02-2023, 02:16 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: The Sand River Pride and what\s going on, should be pretty interesting and ever-evolving. I would say that there should be many more male subs around unless some were killed unbeknownst to the rangers. If we strictly go by what's reported, then there will be 10 offspring left of the Southern Avocas. 10/12 that survived. It is likely that the younger subs around 2-2.5 years old are the young ones to the Mantemahle's Daughters, while the 3 or 4 older subs are the ones of the 2 Toulon lionesses, and probably the last young cub. There are 2 older sub females that should be going into estrous soon....or already. Those are the only adult lionesses that would be showing an interest to the Nkhulus now. The other lionesses are still trying to protect their young. We also know at a MIMINUM, there should be 5 males (once shown in footage of them walking towards the camera angle). However, one of them (they say most likely one of the two older ones....though NOT confirmed) is gone, so we should see 4 males at the very least....a mix of younger and one/two older ones. If so, at least THREE of the younger subs are males (if indeed 1/2 of the older males got killed), not including the single male cub. I am not sure at all how many females are included among the 6 subs around two years old.
The remaining oldest daughter this month should be 3.8 years old. The other sub female and one or two males should be 3.1 years old. The 6 younger subs should be 2.1 years old. The remaining cub should be 9 months old.
Therefore, if this reporting is semi-accurate, there should not be a long time before the 6 younger subs will be abandoned (likely since even any lionesses will be too young to be accepted by all those aggressive males) and then the Mantemahle Daughters will seek out the Nkhulus to mate with perhaps....along with the other young female with the oldest daughter (who might be already mating with some of the males). This leaves the old Toulon lioness as the remaining holdout (assuming she doesn't give up on her lone cub) for awhile.
All in all, not many females available now or in the near future for the 6-7 male coalition trying to take over the pride (maybe if they split into 2 groups, like 4 males take the Sand River Pride, while the others go their separate ways.
I was told the sand river pride (#2) has 11 members