The Tumbela Coalition

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(07-29-2023, 11:21 PM)Mapokser Wrote: @Tr1x24 That's why I said "I'm of th opinion", not "the fact is..."

And can you point out when, exactly, I said only lions with ill fathers ccan get ill?

I also said "probably" got in a fight, as you know, how it was reported "he was probably attacked".

PCM HAVE caught them before, this is no speculation, but facts, it was reported by rangers previously, Tumbela in fact has been caught twice already, first when Nhenha was injured in Ulusaba, PCM attacked him and we saw him with a puncture on his back. Then before he disappeared he was last seen chased by PCM ( reported by rangers, IIRC around the time Ximhungwes supposedly lost their cubs ), and when he reappeared in northern Singita he had a badly scarred back.

Lions survive 1v2 all the time, Amahle barely got any damage from BDM, Tumbela barely got any injuries from Nhenha and NK, DeLaporte is fully recovered from the Avocas, the list goes on. You can even take the strongest duos ever and see them failing to kill or even do meaningful damage 2v1. Mbiris caught a young Nharu male and left him go without any serious damage after a beating. 2 Mlowathi Mapogos caught old Rollercoaster and did no meaningful damage, also caught remaining Manyeleti male and he escaped and outlived both Mapogos by at least 2 years.

Lions survive even 1v3 ( hell some males have survived 1v4 and recovery, like one of the Selatis ), we are tired of seeing it, even a crippled old Nhenha survived a second PCM attack and died weeks later of starvation due to his limp from the first attack stopping him from hunting. So no, they wouldn't be dead necessarily if caught by PCM, and from an entirely statistical point of view, chances are much higher for them to survive a 1v2 than die in one.

So I've no idea where you got the idea of getting caught by PCM equals death.

It just depends 2v1 against a strong single male they might not be able to finish the job plus we don’t see many of these fights the southern avocas vs dreadlocks that looked very bad but they didn’t finish him off they didn’t break is spine so he could recover until the spine is broke then I think ALMOST any male can survive an attack but they might have life changing injuries afterwards or might not but yeah the plains camp males haven’t broken any males spine so they can’t move and are left for dead they basically just beat the intruder up badly and for nhenha he got beating up very badly they basically killed him same with uboso he got beaten pretty badly if he hadn’t gotten beaten up he’d be alive If nhenha hadn’t gotten attack twice he’d be alive Reply