Persian Leopard (Panthera pardus saxicolor)

[Luipaard]

(02-11-2022, 04:04 AM)GuateGojira Wrote:

(02-11-2022, 01:50 AM)Luipaard Wrote: Skull KBIN 8640 is by a margin the biggest and most impressive leopard skull ever:

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Unfortunately we don't know the skull length therefore can't tell the total score with certainty. However, for comparison lionesses with a condylobasal length of 260mm-264mm had a greatest length of 280mm-300mm. Furthermore you can see that this skull completely bests skull KBIN 9053 which you claim to be the largest skull ever recorded. This skull had a shorter condylobasal length but an equal width. You can tell with certainty that skull KBIN 8640 will be longer than skull KBIN 9053. It's superior in every department except for width where they're equal. Now give me one reason to assume skull KBIN 8640 is smaller in terms of total score.

Honestly, at this point, I have 0 interest in this debate of leopards and jaguars. However this claim of a leopard skull of 264 mm in Condylobasal length, the same as an average lioness of the biggest Caspian tigress, is to impressive to leave it like that.

Can you please show the source of this table? And, if is possible, the source of that skull? There is something that definitelly needs to be verified on it. Also, jaguars are normally bigger than leopards, but from the list of skull of jaguars that I have (a very small one), there is no male with a CBL of that size.

I will like to verify this case, if is possible.

I don't have the direct source since Chui originally shared the spreadsheet. I do know that these skulls were used in the study A leopard in the Predynastic Elite Cemetery HK6 at Hierakonpolis, Egypt where they found a very large leopard skull (256mm condylobasal length). These skulls are held in two Belgian museums; KBIN = Koninklijk Belgisch Instituut voor Natuurwetenschappen (or Royal Belgian Institute of Natural Sciences) & KMMA = Koninklijk Museum voor Midden-Afrika (or Royal Museum for Central Africa).

In the study they mention the condylobasal length of 264mm:

Quote:The condylobasal lengths of the measured specimens ranged between 241 mm and 298 mm for lion and between 186 mm and 264 mm for leopard.

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