Modern Weights and Measurements of Jaguars

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(03-07-2021, 05:58 AM)Dark Jaguar Wrote: ADRIANO'S MEASUREMENTS

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He is here, the first jaguar that debuted this thread and back then I noticed he had the wrong 158 kg claim by the photographer which was debunked by Fernando Tortato with Adriano ( AKA Tel or Teo ) weighing 130 kg.

During a nice discussion about jaguars with Rafael Hoogesteijn I asked the measurements of Adriano (or Tel), he said unfortunately he doesn't have them but then he suggested me to get Tel's measurements with Fernando Tortato since him and Joares May were the Head of that capture.

Rafael Hoogesteijn and Fernando Tortato call him Tel, he is also known by Panthera researchers with the codename as M11.

Rafael told me Tel's capture was a day to never forget in December 12th 2012.

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Measure Method

Fernando Tortato said they often use over the curves and with Tel/Adriano they used a malleable tape measure  that involves the body of the animal ( I noticed it before his answer as soon as I saw Adriano/Tel shoulder height ).

However Rafael Hoogesteijn said the jaguars he captured in Llanos he measured on straight lines, just like Dr Crawshaw told me, he said over the curves will end up enlongating the size of the animal which is an inaccurate method.

M11 (Teo/Adriano) Measurements.

Measure Method: Over the Curves.

Head Girth: 75.6cm
Neck Girth: 67cm
Chest Girth: 109cm
Shoulder Height: 85cm
Body Length: 152cm
Tail Length: 66cm
Total length: 218 cm
Weight: 130kg

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Message by Tortato.

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Teo's head circumference is what impressed me the most about his dimensions.

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Tel vs Pita

On the head girth Teo is 4.6 cm larger than Pita's head, that's really impressive. He definitely got a head size above the average.

However on the Neck girth department Pita is the record holder, the male to be beaten as no other jaguar on my books have beaten Pita's  whooping 70 cm of Neck girth, 3 cm thicker than Tel/Adriano's neck and 1.5 cm thicker than Almeidas thickest neck jaguar.

Chest girth wise I expected Tel/Adriano to be thicker than those 109 cm so it was a bit of a disappointment to me, so Tel/Adriano is 5 cm thinner than Pita's 114 cm chest. ( Dr Crawshaw was really serious when he said Pita is a very Bulky, wide, low to the ground jag ).

Shoulder Height was what led me to think Tel/Adriano was measured over the curves, with his 85 cm tall on the shoulders, 15 cm taller than Pita's shoulder (straight lines). Its clear Tel/Adriano is a bit shorter on the shoulder than that.

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Total length wise with both cats measured differently ( Tortato told me the measuring tape followed all curves of Adriano's muscular body ) with that being said we can assure Tel/Adriano is slightly shorter than those 218 cm but I personally think Tel/Adriano in total body length would be slightly longer than Pita's total 207 cm if Tel was measured on straight lines because Tel got a tail 10 cm longer than Pita's tail. What I know for sure is that Jaguars are short and broad cats by nature.

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Tel AKA M11

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Really exciting to finally get his measurements, him having a large head circumference doesn't surprise me because I always thought his face was particularly imposing almost like a lion. Just like you, I'm surprised at the chest girth measurements since for a jaguar his size I would've expected something above 110 cm. Overall Ruxu was a very stocky jaguar but his frame was never necessarily the largest. 

Now, keep in mind that he was captured in 2012 and he first appeared in the PJ area in 2011, he was last seen in 2019. What this means is that he certainly grew bigger throughout the years and the weight and measurements captured initially by Panthera may not be the accurate measurements for him during his more senior days, and it's important to know for sure the ages of the cats being compared for context. For example, Joker on his initial capture had a total body length of 225 cm, but on his latest capture last year his body measured 250 cm, so he grew consistently from that period of time, which means that his outstanding measurements of 126 cm in chest circumference and his massive neck and head only got bigger with time, and thus I'm not surprised that he reached the mark of 140 kg on his second capture despite not being fully lifted (imagine how big he must be to reach that benchmark with such velocity), which would suggest he was actually much heavier than that.

I'd imagine that with Ruxu/Adriano/Telephone (he has so many names) his size also increased dramatically with time. Here he is in Nov 2015, IMO he looked much bigger than on his earlier days of being tracked when he was captured:

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Another thing to keep in mind with over the curve measurements, in the event that the usual immature people would want to use these jaguar measurements to compare them to other cats, perhaps on the pointless VS debates on forums like Carnivora, the measurements of all other felids are too overwhelmingly taken following the curves of the body unless specified otherwise, so before anybody tries to discredit these measurements for elongating the body, remember that for other cats (like the ones they like to pit against jaguars) the measurements usually publicized for them would be elongated as well more often than not. This is the same case for weight collections, where it is assumed that the jaguars are always gorge and they must find ways to reduce their weight some way or another, but that same standard for stomach content (which often times the understanding of stomachal content is flawed since these people don't know anything about the metabolical absorption of food intake on felids) must be applied to other cats as well. Reply