Great white shark (Carcharodon carcharias)

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(08-24-2020, 11:38 PM)BorneanTiger Wrote:

(08-24-2020, 04:20 PM)Shadow Wrote:

(08-23-2020, 06:19 PM)BorneanTiger Wrote:

(08-22-2020, 11:50 PM)Shadow Wrote:

(08-22-2020, 06:31 PM)BorneanTiger Wrote: About what I mean by humpbacks dominating orcas: https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-baleen-...#pid124765

So can you explain how there can be domination, when some species is prey to another and they can´t protect their calves from attacks and getting eaten? Even when they are in packs/pods and doing all what they can to make predators to give up/flee. I am waiting with interest if you can explain it in some reasonable way?

I mean with your own words, I don´t need to see articles, which I´ve seen many times in past.

Like how can adult lions dominate hyenas, when hyenas manage to snatch and kill lion cubs: https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-baleen-...#pid124849

I don´t see any justification for your claim. I understand domination really something like what lions do to hyenas. Hyenas don´t even dare to try to attack lion cubs, when pride is there and especially if male lion present. Orcas attack humpback whales no matter what when they are hunting. Humpback whales are in those occasions prey and even though not helpless, I don´t remember claims, that they would have killed orcas. Your comparison looks for me very odd and far fetched. Domination is for me something very different than what you now try to suggest.

Now do you see what I mean? Hyenas can snatch lion cubs, even with adult lions being present:

I´m sorry but what you try to say is absurd. Your comparisons make no sense really and I haven´t seen you explaining where do you see domination in any reasonable way. This starts to turn into rubbish, imo, just like some lion-tiger things in past.

That video which you linked was also, sorry to say, rubbish. Hyenas can take lion cub, when adult lions aren´t there present. Lions leave cubs sometimes alone, when they hunt etc. and that is very risky. Cubs can also be too far from adults by accident and in such cases hyenas can use opportunity. But when cubs are with pride and adults close, it´s a different thing. Hyenas don´t hunt lion cubs, they use opportunity if such happens. When we talk about orcas and humpback whales, orcas hunt humpback whales, they go for calves no matter if there is lone calf (for some reason) or calf/calves protected by adult humpbacks. 

I could imagine, that great white shark could attack an orca calf in same way as hyenas can go for lion cub. But I wonder if sharks have courage to do so, when knowing how much they are afraid of orcas. It looks like, that they fear more orcas than hyenas fear lions. Then again orcas don´t seem to be afraid of anything in the oceans. 

Anyway what comes to this, best to keep this in baleen whales thread from now on. Or if you want to write about megalodons, which seems to be your bigger agenda behind many latest postings, then megalodon thread. I check later if this thread needs to be cleaned a bit from postings, which aren´t so much about great white sharks. Reply