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(05-23-2021, 02:38 AM)Potato Wrote: I just can't wait to see if up comming cubs in Black Dam pride will be white. Wasn't actually one of the white Giraffe lionesses littermate of youngest Giraffe male who sired 3 of the 4 current Black Dam females?

You mean this white female? :





She was born in Ross pride, not Giraffe.
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(05-23-2021, 03:35 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(05-23-2021, 02:38 AM)Potato Wrote: I just can't wait to see if up comming cubs in Black Dam pride will be white. Wasn't actually one of the white Giraffe lionesses littermate of youngest Giraffe male who sired 3 of the 4 current Black Dam females?

You mean this white female? :





She was born in Ross pride, not Giraffe.

No, I am talking about Giraffe pride. Girafe pride used to have 2 white females from which I am pretty sure one was sired by Old Ross males, but I do not know from which litter she came from.
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The Sumatra male was seen yesterday afternoon looking skinny but in good condition, He was seen mating with a lioness on our Northern boundary.
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The two River pride males, Hosi and Socha at Hyena pan in Northern Timbavati in the last two days
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(05-25-2021, 06:09 AM)Timbavati Wrote: The Sumatra male was seen yesterday afternoon looking skinny but in good condition, He was seen mating with a lioness on our Northern boundary.

I keep seeing mention of Sumatra, and his being alone, has there been any sighting of Hercules? Are they just not together, or is Hercules MIA?
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(05-25-2021, 06:25 AM)BA0701 Wrote:
(05-25-2021, 06:09 AM)Timbavati Wrote: The Sumatra male was seen yesterday afternoon looking skinny but in good condition, He was seen mating with a lioness on our Northern boundary.

I keep seeing mention of Sumatra, and his being alone, has there been any sighting of Hercules? Are they just not together, or is Hercules MIA?

Hercule wasn't seen for two weeks now, nothing to worry about yet, as the Giraffe pride territory is not much utilized by rangers as they cover a few private properties.
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(05-25-2021, 06:27 AM)Timbavati Wrote:
(05-25-2021, 06:25 AM)BA0701 Wrote:
(05-25-2021, 06:09 AM)Timbavati Wrote: The Sumatra male was seen yesterday afternoon looking skinny but in good condition, He was seen mating with a lioness on our Northern boundary.

I keep seeing mention of Sumatra, and his being alone, has there been any sighting of Hercules? Are they just not together, or is Hercules MIA?

Hercule wasn't seen for two weeks now, nothing to worry about yet, as the Giraffe pride territory is not much utilized by rangers as they cover a few private properties.

Thank you @"Timbavati", we'll just continue to hope for an update on him.
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Nice closeup of the old Birmingham male Smudge. Image by Brendon Cremer at Simbavati, 2013.

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(05-23-2021, 03:45 PM)Potato Wrote:
(05-23-2021, 03:35 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(05-23-2021, 02:38 AM)Potato Wrote: I just can't wait to see if up comming cubs in Black Dam pride will be white. Wasn't actually one of the white Giraffe lionesses littermate of youngest Giraffe male who sired 3 of the 4 current Black Dam females?

You mean this white female? :



She was born in Ross pride, not Giraffe.

No, I am talking about Giraffe pride. Girafe pride used to have 2 white females from which I am pretty sure one was sired by Old Ross males, but I do not know from which litter she came from.

Yeah there were two white females in the Giraffe pride, both sired by the Good and Bad, a blue eyed girl was of the 2009 litter, a hazel eyed girl was from the 2011 litter. Both were photographed on a kill by Johan Smalman at GomoGomo Lodge in 2013. The last remaining one was killed by the Mbiri males in 2017. To your point, you're right there is leucistic genes on both sides of a Xikukutsu x Blackdam mating.

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(05-26-2021, 02:36 AM)Herekitty Wrote: To your point, you're right there is leucistic genes on both sides of a Xikukutsu x Monwana mating
You mean Xikukutsus x Black Dam of course.

(05-26-2021, 02:36 AM)Herekitty Wrote: Yeah there were two white females in the Giraffe pride, both sired by the Good and Bad, a blue eyed girl was of the 2009 litter, a hazel eyed girl was from the 2011 litter
So the older white female was old Avocas littermate?
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The old Birmingham male Blondie at Ngala in 2011. Image by Peter Umstead.
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(05-26-2021, 03:51 AM)Potato Wrote:
(05-26-2021, 02:36 AM)Herekitty Wrote: To your point, you're right there is leucistic genes on both sides of a Xikukutsu x Monwana mating
You mean Xikukutsus x Black Dam of course.

(05-26-2021, 02:36 AM)Herekitty Wrote: Yeah there were two white females in the Giraffe pride, both sired by the Good and Bad, a blue eyed girl was of the 2009 litter, a hazel eyed girl was from the 2011 litter
So the older white female was old Avocas littermate?

Blackdam of course! Yes I believe she was the littermate of the two older Giraffes, Brutus and his bro.
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What a stunning capture of one of the Rusermi males at Klaserie Camps,Photo by: Natasha Kotze, May 2021.

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The limping Monwana male seen at Walker River Camp
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(05-28-2021, 09:00 PM)Timbavati Wrote: The limping Monwana male seen at Walker River Camp
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He was with a pride, prob members of Giraffe pride.
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