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Lions of Timbavati

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(05-18-2021, 08:47 PM)Potato Wrote: Some fabulous early morning #goldenhour light helped illuminate the regal male #lion we know as the larger of the 2 Xikukutsu Male #lions here at @royalmalewane in South Africa.

A few mornings ago we were on a #wildlife photographic #safari with @laurandnicolas and were treated to a sighting of this beast mating with one of the females from the Monwana Pride.


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He isn't only the bigger among the two Xikukutsu males, he's also a slightly bigger than the Mapoza male, which is a average size male lion, same goes for the Giraffe male, He wasn't a massive male comparing with other as the Black dam male for example.
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Blast from the past - Two of the three Timbavati males on the lookout at Timbavati Game Reserve, photo by: Mynatour,March 2010

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(05-18-2021, 11:17 PM)Timbavati Wrote: He isn't only the bigger among the two Xikukutsu males, he's also a slightly bigger than the Mapoza male
Here is what guys from Kubili House had to say in that matter: "At the moment we have what looks to be a loose coalition of 3 males, consisting of one named Mphosa (he has different coloured eyes, which could have been caused by trauma to the side of the head from a hunt or even another male) and two others which are very light in colour and much larger than Mphosa. We call these two the Skukutsu males and they are truly a sight to behold – their sheer size is enough to intimidate one."

Also Ziggi Hugo (guide of Shindzea from like forever) who probably had view that coalition for years and know them probably better than anyone else asked about size comparison of Xikukutsu males to MApoza said: "They are bigger, that is they are bigger in high and their paws are bigger"

so there is rather no doubts that both Xikukutsus are larger males than Mapoza. What it comes to comparison of Giraffe male to Black Dam male there is rather no way to know how they would match up with each others regarding body size unless. Black Dam had reputation of very big male, but since Giraffe male was able to take part of BD's territory and the Black Dam pride then I assume Giraffe male had to be somewhat fair match for BD or elese BD would just easly chasse GIraffe male off.
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(05-18-2021, 11:37 PM)Potato Wrote:
(05-18-2021, 11:17 PM)Timbavati Wrote: He isn't only the bigger among the two Xikukutsu males, he's also a slightly bigger than the Mapoza male
Here is what guys from Kubili House had to say in that matter: "At the moment we have what looks to be a loose coalition of 3 males, consisting of one named Mphosa (he has different coloured eyes, which could have been caused by trauma to the side of the head from a hunt or even another male) and two others which are very light in colour and much larger than Mphosa. We call these two the Skukutsu males and they are truly a sight to behold – their sheer size is enough to intimidate one."

Also Ziggi Hugo (guide of Shindzea from like forever) who probably had view that coalition for years and know them probably better than anyone else asked about size comparison of Xikukutsu males to MApoza said: "They are bigger, that is they are bigger in high and their paws are bigger"

so there is rather no doubts that both Xikukutsus are larger males than Mapoza. What it comes to comparison of Giraffe male to Black Dam male there is rather no way to know how they would match up with each others regarding body size unless. Black Dam had reputation of very big male, but since Giraffe male was able to take part of BD's territory and the Black Dam pride then I assume Giraffe male had to be somewhat fair match for BD or elese BD would just easly chasse GIraffe male off.

Both males have pre-occupied both prides, The Giraffe male occuped the Black dam pride and the Black dam male occuped the Giraffe pride, one of the Black dam females left the pride with two cubs of the Black dam male on a move to save their cubs, I don't know if those cubs make it, but what a tale to tell!
Rudi Hulshof mentioned a couple of years ago when both males were in their prime and alive, that the Giraffe male was an average sized-male
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Mapoza enjoying being king.
Credit: Gerry Van Der Walt

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(05-19-2021, 05:23 PM)Brahimlegend Wrote: Mapoza enjoying being king.
Credit: Gerry Van Der Walt

It has been a long time since he wasn't seen with the Avoca pride, interesting times ahead, as the Sumatra male was after the Avoca pride and they ran south
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@Timbavati how old are his offspring in Avoca pride now
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(05-19-2021, 05:56 PM)Brahimlegend Wrote: @Timbavati how old are his offspring in Avoca pride now

He took-over the Avoca pride in late 2018. So, his offspring is slightly older than 2 years old.
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What a beast of male lion ~ The bigger of the two Mbiri males seen recently in Kruger National Park, Orpen Gate, KNP,photo by: James Walker

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One of the Sark males with one of the Sark lionesses, both males were seen in Jejane property in the South of Balule in Aprik this year,Ximuwu-Klaserie,photo by: Patrick Suverein

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Sumarta and Hercules males are in no doubt great spot now. They already have Giraffe pride and they are two others potential easy takeovers near by - Zark breakaway and Avoca prides.
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(05-19-2021, 07:50 PM)Potato Wrote: Sumarta and Hercules males are in no doubt great spot now. They already have Giraffe pride and they are two others potential easy takeovers near by - Zark breakaway and Avoca prides.

Sumatra male wasn't looking good in the past two days, limping and with a abcess on his leg
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(05-19-2021, 09:50 PM)Timbavati Wrote: Sumatra male wasn't looking good in the past two days, limping and with a abcess on his leg

Sumatra has that "black spot" disease like Sizanani, Nsuku, Hip-scar, DeLaporte Talamati etc..

Idk if thats related to TB, or its some kind of other disease, some kind of parasite/bacteria that eats flesh/muscle, and also those males limp on that leg because of it.. 

Actually a lot of males has that, but it depends how "agressive" it is it looks like.. 

Because for example Scar/Zig Zag Mbiri and Snip Tail Mpondo and his brother also have that but its not affecting them so far.. 

Also Limper Tumbela, Wide Nose Nwaswitshaka also have that, both those males where/are limping, but those males are still quite young so its prob not a threat for them yet.. 

I was trying to do research on that but very to none info about that disease and what actually is it..
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(05-19-2021, 06:30 PM)Timbavati Wrote: One of the Sark males with one of the Sark lionesses, both males were seen in Jejane property in the South of Balule in Aprik this year,Ximuwu-Klaserie,photo by: Patrick Suverein

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Zark males have individual names, if they have them; do you know which ones they are?
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