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Lions of Timbavati

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( This post was last modified: 02-24-2021, 07:26 PM by Potato )

Video from Nthambo Tree Camp in which some lionesses are visible. It indicates that Vuela males manage to take control over some pride in the last 2 years in which there were bassicly no updates from that ragion.

https://www.facebook.com/nthambotreecamp/videos/966375013767728
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I am yet to see them, but the news from @royalmalewane is that atleast 2 #lion females have given birth to cubs, from the Monwana pride of #lions
I hope to be able to get to see them in the coming few days, and cannot wait to post pictures like this one, featuring one of the 3 cubs born to the pride about 5 years ago now.
From this litter, the female is now a mother of new cubs continuing the pride legacy, and her two brothers are the fathers of cubs in their own territory in the neighbouring reserve, where they reign supreme over the Giraffe Pride.
The time is right to come join us at @royalmalewane to get this rare chance to view tiny new Lion cubs.
We have waited a good 3 years since the last cubs were born in the reserve and were being seen frequently.


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Tanda Tula update

The week that past eventually saw me getting to catch up with the River Pride lionesses again and gave me my first viewing of the new cub!  I say new, but it is already 9 weeks old and getting bigger by the week!  We managed to sex it, and it is another little female, so we sincerely hope she can live long and prosper.  The other lioness that lost her cubs last year has now too had her cubs, and although we have no idea how old they are, or any idea where they are, she is showing signs of lactating, so clearly has them stashed somewhere safe.  If I were to hazard a guess, I would say they are probably hidden to the east of our concession, just out of our traversing area; I have heard the males roaring from there on a couple of occasions, the pride and cub paid a visit to Tanda Tula Safari Camp a couple of days back, they walked all the way back to our eastern boundary and carried on east.  However, without any proper riverbeds (or even drainage lines) in that area, I cannot imagine where the mother may have chosen a spot.  Possibly, like Thumbela did with her cub, she has chosen a spot in the thick Terminalia thickets on the gabbros, with lots of nooks and crannies to hide some cubs?


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Sadly, the non-cut-nosed Nharhu male is not looking in great shape, and was alarmingly skinny when we saw him this week.  My hope is that he had just been off mating with the oldest lioness for a few days, and is only in need of a good meal.  I also got to catch up with the two Balule lionesses this week when Glen tracked them down right in the heart of River Pride territory!  With the rains washing away the scents of lions, and the wind stopping the Nharhu males from roaring, these lionesses may have wandered in not knowing that the territory was occupied, but sadly a couple of days later we had their tracks moving back to the north and out of the area for now.  They were seen on the western boundary later in the week, and there was also a report of a young pride of three in the far west – possible members of the Sark Pride that we saw interacting with hyenas last month.  The Giraffe Pride were found right in the very western parts of the concession, close to the Klaserie River this week, but I didn’t make the long trip to see them.


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@Potato hopefully limper just needs a meal
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Bad boy look from the dominant male at Thornybush . Mapoza!!
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did anybody see the video on facebook  mbiri males chase a pride and a male anybody know who they are ?
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Saw that too, interested to see who they are.
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(02-28-2021, 10:43 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote: did anybody see the video on facebook  mbiri males chase a pride and a male anybody know who they are ?

Since it was on Ngala it is rather safe to say it was either Birmingham pride or Birmingham breakawaypride.
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Wow... time flies. It feels like just last week that we first saw these little ones emerging from their den into the dry riverbed. The Western pride cubs are looking healthy and getting big, fast. Their mothers hard work is paying off—this is clearly a result of being well taken care of.


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(02-28-2021, 11:12 PM)Potato Wrote:
(02-28-2021, 10:43 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote: did anybody see the video on facebook  mbiri males chase a pride and a male anybody know who they are ?

Since it was on Ngala it is rather safe to say it was either Birmingham pride or Birmingham breakawaypride.

maybe mibri males  might clash with the ross males ?
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(02-28-2021, 11:09 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Saw that too, interested to see who they are.

link?
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(02-28-2021, 11:59 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote:
(02-28-2021, 11:12 PM)Potato Wrote:
(02-28-2021, 10:43 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote: did anybody see the video on facebook  mbiri males chase a pride and a male anybody know who they are ?

Since it was on Ngala it is rather safe to say it was either Birmingham pride or Birmingham breakawaypride.

maybe mibri males  might clash with the ross males ?

Definitelly possible. They might feel need to defend their territory after all . Does they have tools however to fight off mighty Mbiris? I feel they do not so perhaps better way for Ross males could be to just wait out that Mbiris leave Ngala by themselfs. I wonder however if perhaps Mbiri males with Skorro pride intend to stick in the arena a bit longer. Intresting times lay ahead for lion dynamics in Ngala.
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It looks like Birmingham subadults (not breakeaway, i only saw 2 young males, breakeaway have much more then females) , regardless who it is, Ross males doesnt hang or protect either of them anymore..

Birmingham subadults hang around Orpens, which is more of Mbiris territory then Ross males, Ross males hasn't been seen near Orpens for quite a while. 

Lion territory changes daily, its not like "look its Ngala, thats Ross males territory".. It doesn't work like that.. 

Those subadults prob just bump into them, and from behavior of that Skorro lioness and Mbiris, they where on their territory...thats Skorro's lioness would definitely not behave like that if she was not in her territory, she was chasing them out.
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(03-01-2021, 12:49 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Birmingham subadults hang around Orpens, which is more of Mbiris territory then Ross males, Ross males hasn't been seen near Orpens for quite a while. 
(03-01-2021, 12:49 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Those subadults prob just bump into them, and from behavior of that Skorro lioness and Mbiris, they where on their territory...thats Skorro's lioness would definitely not behave like that if she was not in her territory, she was chasing them out.
Chasse took place on Ngala which most definitelly isn't in any part territory of Skorro pride. On another note as far as I remember Ross males with Birmingham pride were seen at Orpen Gate 2 weeks ago or so. Also as far as I remember Skorro last time was seen on Ngala... 5 and half years ago.
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(03-01-2021, 01:25 AM)Potato Wrote: Chasse took place on Ngala which most definitelly isn't in any part territory of Skorro pride. On another note as far as I remember Ross males with Birmingham pride were seen at Orpen Gate 2 weeks ago or so. Also as far as I remember Skorro last time was seen on Ngala... 5 and half years ago

If theres no roaring or marking of dominant males or pride in that area for weeks, neigbouring pride will fill that void and claim that territory..

This is exactly what happened in Londolozi with N. Avocas who now these days hang all the way in central Londolozi, because theres no Bboys or Kambulas there for few weeks..

Skorros and Mbiris are certainly not invading Ross males territory, if there where recent presence of Ross males there, that lioness and Skorro pride would certaintly not been there.. 

And stop with these, Ngala is territory of only Ross males, reserve boundaries are not lions territory boundaries, lions territory change daily..

That was exact reaction with N. Avocas when they where seen in Londolozi and MalaMala, people where like "oh look N. Avocas are in Londolozi and MalaMala, they are invading Bboys"..
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