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 (11-25-2018, 09:24 PM)Sanju Wrote: Amreli: In the east, the death of three lions in two days, chronic wildlife, same old cause- infighting said by officials. Looks like they did...Some photos of the dead cubs were released. Being killed by other lions during infighting or inter-pride fighting, is the commonest reason for death of cubs in congested & contested Gir proper. Try not to make remarks without verifying the facts first. You made many before, the ones i asked about in post #576 to which you haven't presented any sources yet. Shared by Hanif Khokhar.  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author (11-25-2018, 02:48 PM)sanjay Wrote: I think this article need support or we will loose Asiatic Lion. The relocation of lions to former/new habitats & ensuring a viable future of Asiatic lions, are completely different issues! And while Gujarat is committing a punishable offence on the former ground, their latest efforts are in the right direction regarding the latter. Moving few dozen lions won't solve any of the problems in Bruhad Gir. Even if the the relocation started during the '90s & Kuno-Palpur lion population had increased to 100 now, lion density outside Gir will still spiral out of control... urbanisation of the corridors will still go on... illegal lion shows will continue... if an unchecked epidemic can still end the Asiatic lions... etc. Gujarat must think beyond peanuts & eyewashes of creating Safari-Parks, breeding some lions in Sakkarbaug zoo & calling it "Genepool enhancement". They are finally taking some good first steps; like breeding natural prey, curbing of baiting & Barda translocation. Not enough... but it's a start. Important future objectives must include maintaining the corridors & patchy habitats, while enhancing the degraded scrubs/fallow lands to grasslands all over Greater-Gir.  (11-27-2018, 01:28 PM)Rishi Wrote: Moving a few dozen lions won't solve any of the problems in Bruhad Gir.@Rishi If the Gir population wipes off by catastrophe/epidemic/inbreeding depression then, Kuno and other areas of Rajasthan (if relocated) will be there. There will be a separate gene pool which will be diversified coz of diff environmental/natural pressures of the area. The range will be expanded beyond the industrialised state. Most importantly, a Separate population without connection will be formed. if relocated, Barda will be in still in contact with Gir and its mere extension(this is not the solution for inbreeding which they already faced 2 bottlenecks and founder effect anyway). It's a good thing to expand the lion's range, but why does that stopping lions leaving the state to Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh or even another country? They have the right to live and spread in "forests". Like us, humans evolved in Africa, conquered the world. Every life form is equal. "lion density outside Gir will still spiral out of control... urbanisation of the corridors will still go on... illegal lion shows will continue" This will come under lack of management of the Forest department of that particular state(every state or area has these type of problems not special for Gujarat). not Providing animals forests to live freely when there are no forests which are protected is an excuse but even when potential sites available not leaving them to live freely? What is this? (at least in its own country, leave about other countries). You might encourage Gujarat's monopoly. but its wrong. Regarding the sources of the information called by you as "critical Statements" given in my previous posts, If the information read by me is recent, I can give the source/link for that as it is available readily. but if it was read long before, I am not interested in chasing, finding and sharing the news reports/blogs and info links in the description of the post (that's a lot of work!) in which I may find the source or not. It is like finding a selected atom in the observable universe. -_-. Thank You. (11-27-2018, 02:13 PM)Sanju Wrote: "lion density outside Gir will still spiral out of control... urbanisation of the corridors will still go on... illegal lion shows will continue" Yes, that's what i'm saying. Protecting & managing the exploding main population is a lot greater challenge that's needs long term planning. I'd encourage Gujarat to think beyond Barda & consider every other possible habitat within the state to move as many lions as possible from its farms & fields... That's not the same as encouraging monopoly. Also, make it a habit to bookmark & save links. In future any piece data that cannot be traced to its source will be deleted. Opinions can be personal, information cannot. (11-27-2018, 02:13 PM)Sanju Wrote:(11-27-2018, 01:28 PM)Rishi Wrote: "if an unchecked epidemic can still end the Asiatic lions... etc."(? -_-)... This was actually discussed before you joined, somewhere ahead in this thread i think. If the relocation is done well with their numbers increasing to a healthy extent, then the new population/s will have enough genetic variety to carry on in few decades time. No problems then. But if it happens how i think Gujarat might try to make it happen, then MP will be given some of its most inbred & genetically weakest stock! In that case, they may not even last few decades. That's the reason i think forcing Gujarat won't work... Better to first break their monopoly by rewilding zoo lions (hundreds to choose from outside Gujarat) & exchange tigers for more lions. That way Gujarat can have a very good tiger population too, with both Rajasthan & MP tigers! (11-27-2018, 05:19 PM)Rishi Wrote: Protecting & managing the exploding main population is a lot greater challenge that needs long-term planning. Gujarat is afraid, so it is concentrating lions towards Arabian sea and middle of Saurashtra, if they spread to every considerable place within Gujarat, then lions will escape after some time to places like Pak, Rajasthan, Maharashtra and Madhya Pradesh(if possible), even they are afraid of shifting them to Barda but forcibly shifting because of pressure of people towards lions to mp, so that this will act as relief and arrow to stop that project. Quote:Also, make it a habit to bookmark & save links. I do have that habit but the bookmarks and saved links in pockets became so much that all of them combined are no lesser than the Pacific  . All those are not my opinions but read in many info sources but unable to retrieve the sources read long ago.Quote:This was actually discussed before you joined, somewhere ahead in this thread I think.  Quote:But if it happens how I think Gujarat might try to make it happen, then MP will be given some of its most inbred & genetically weakest stock! Yes, no doubt in any way that they won't stoop down to do so. Quote:That's the reason I think forcing Gujarat won't work... Yes, but if the central government changes in next elections (not possible though lol), spreading awareness about the endangered creature, Protests, attempting contempt petitions like Ajay Dubey's ongoing cases for lack of momentum and interest in the vital project from Gujarat and as well as MP's side may put pressure on SC to forcibly resume the on hold subject and sleeping masses by warnings (though bit of difficult and hard way). Quote:Better to first their monopoly by rewilding zoo lions (hundreds to choose from outside Gujarat) This is being criticized as lions in introduced in UP's Etawah Safari Park died and also 2 Asiatic lions from Hyderabad (lioness Laxmi and lion Vishnu, in 2013, died the following year, their death attributed to CDV) but, it is very possible (damn surely-in which some might have been better as they didn't go bottleneck/founder effect-i mean not from Gir pop I think, isn't it? need clarification I'm not sure). If F3 or F4 of semi-wild Lions are trained to hunt (still have their instincts in them unrevealed and used) and survive reintroduced then, it will bring more viable population in distinct and unconnected part from Gir in another part of India. Even a completely non-native species like the tiger in South Africa (Laohu, Tiger canyons Private wildlife reserve) are surviving, even though in tiger canyons they are captive from America and other SA zoos and circuses..etc. All that opposition for this captive lions reintroduction in Mp is bad. Actually, captivity is ex situ conservation that is they serve to preserve species when wild pop becomes extinct, but nowadays zoos are treated as "commercial business spots", they are built for that purpose to reintroduce animals in extinct places but doing that purpose is facing criticism.  Quote:& exchange tigers for more lions(but they are satisfied with the feed on lion tourism, lol). That way Gujarat can have a very good tiger population too with both Rajasthan & MP tigers! Now, you are talking buddy! They are about three or more places in Gujarat's boundary tiger presence is sighted. The most potential is the one sharing a boundary with Maharashtra that is Dang forest in southern Gujarat. The reality of lion-tiger coexistence which happened before in the past witnessed by ancestors will be again accomplished. The worst/craziest and also as well as the funniest thing is that celebrating Lion-man coexistence(no offence/critics to tradition but thought to showcase to the public). (real enemy is modern anatomical human for every wild animal on earth and they say tiger another wild animal as the enemy,  if a megafaunal and mega carnivorous predator alive like lion can coexist with a human-like top predator of biome sorry biosphere, then that animal's feat is nothing less than winning the world lol).
@Rishi did you find any photos or data about those captive lions 33 beside dalkhanya range and 2 lions saved from the dalkhanya range from the dead 26 member pride. till date they are in captivity by so called "under observation and vaccination". i think their blood might be replaced with vaccine as circulatory fluid connective tissue lol after that intense vaccination drive to wild animals like lion resemblingly done to dogs like domesticated animals for CDV. i highly suspect that they are alive or not. or government is concealing their deaths? i just want to confirm that they are live with live photographs and data. if you find any images of those captive lions. post it here.
Gujaratis obvioiusly will not let lions to get out of Kathiavar peninsula because this is the only guarantee that animals will not escape to surrounding states. Kathiavar peninsula is land locked, no escape. Moving of lions in outer Gujarat for GFD is equal to moving to other states...
Information source: https://ahmedabadmirror.indiatimes.com/ahmedabad/cover-story/will-funding-balm-fix-broken-pride/articleshow/66834981.cms
Commenting about translocation of lions to Barda, Gujarat's Minister of Forests, Ganpat Vasava said, “It will happen naturally, as with growing population of lions, they are gradually moving towards that direction so they will naturally move to Barda.” So the money allocated will just be for habitat, prey-base development at Barda & relocation of villages. Moreover, the Centre with help from Wildlife Institute of India (WII) will help in developing lion habitat outside the sanctuary area. Sources in Gandhinagar confirmed that another Rs 100 crore will be allocated, of which Rs 40 crore will be spent by state government and the remaining by the Centre. This is to develop habitats for lion in Brihad (greater) Gir, the unprotected area where lion population has been increasing in the past few years. Former forest official and member of National Wildlife Board H S Singh said, “It is good that government has announced aid based on plans for future. It will help in lion conservation as such bigger amount is required considering increasing population of lions. Such action is taken when some incident takes place. It is a learning. However, if it was taken earlier it was even better." The death of Dalkhaniya pride literally saved the rest... Remember them martyrs! (11-28-2018, 07:26 AM)Wolverine Wrote: Gujaratis obviously will not let lions to get out of Kathiawar peninsula because this is the only guarantee that animals will not escape to surrounding states. Kathiawar peninsula is land locked, no escape. Moving of lions in outer Gujarat for GFD is equal to moving to other states... *This image is copyright of its original author *This image is copyright of its original author As Gujarat shares border with Pak it is risky and also there is a chance of escaping to Pak or Rajasthan and its a war prone zone too! if barda relocation happens, then a new firm forested source for lion meta population to expand from there exists. Hence, they are afraid to relocate even in their own state and concentrating them towards middle of saurashtra, sea coast or Arabian sea where there will be no land mass to escape. but due to pressure from wildlife lovers, to shift to Mp, there are have no option except to show barda as a diversion to stop that project. Hence, first time they are radio collaring and drone surveillance of 24/7 helpline etc... They are investing money on lion conservation cleverly to defend from inter-state translocation and natural dispersal of lion for their political and tourism interests. I can't provide the source but, I read couple of articles about officials confirming that 2 lions were seen infrequently in Barda.
Lion mauls labourer to death and injures two others in Devaliya Safari park, tourist entry halted
November 29, 2018  *This image is copyright of its original author JUNAGADH: In an extremely rare event, lions attack three people in Gir forest. Three people were injured in an attack by lions inside Gir Interpretation Zone, Devaliya, popularly called Devaliya Safari Park, near tourist hub Sasan in Gir forest in Junagadh district on Thursday. There are two places for lions darshan at Sasan. One is the Gir Tourism Zone in the Gir Sanctuary in which the pilgrims/visitors go to the forest and the second place for lions darshan is the Devaliya Interpretation Zone/Safari Park. A temporary employee (labourer) has been killed and two other employees have been injured in lion attack on workers working in the Devaliya Safari Park. According to a report, by Junagadh Circle of Forest Department (Wildlife), this incident happened in the morning at Devalia Safari Park. In which two lion had attacked Rajneesh Keshwara, who was working as a labourer. Sources said that since the two most experienced lion trackers were on leave, Keshwala was a standby for them. While the lion was attempting to kill him, another worker, Dinesh Kacha, tried to save Rajneesh, but they also attacked him. However, Dinesh was successful in getting out of lions' claws and he told other staff about the attack. The lion dragged Rajneesh Keshwala into the forest and the forest department had to work hard to find him. After being alerted, the staff rushed to the spot and launched a search for Keshwala. But they could recover only his body. During the search & recovery of Keshwala’s body, lions attacked one of the foresters, identified as Meraman Bharda. The injured Dinesh and Meraman were shifted to Junagadh Hospital for treatment. Meanwhile, the body of Rajnish Keshav was found later in the forest. After the incident, the forest department had closed the safari park for tourists. Rajneesh was a resident of Sasan village. Under what circumstance the incident took place has not yet come out. Chief wildlife conservative officer (Wildlife) Akshay Kumar Saxena has been entrusted with the investigation of this whole case by the Chief Conservator of Forest, Junagadh Wildlife Circle, DT Vasavada.  *This image is copyright of its original author Apart from this, the Lion/s (Gaurav & Gautam) who attacked humans will no longer/more will be allowed to leave into the open forest for safari during the day (in this case in the Devaliya Safari Park). Because in Devaliya Safari park the lions are kept in enclosures at night and are released in the open during the day. Devaliya safari park is spread over 412 hectare inside Gir forest. The park is part of Gir (west) division and a chain-linked fencing separates it from the rest of the forest of Gir Sanctuary. It is worth mentioning here that the open gypsy safari service has been started from this year in Devalia Safari Park. Everyday 70 gipsy goes in with tourists. For many years, lions safari usually used to take place in the tourist bus and but this year open gipsy safari is introduced in Devlia safari Park now. The number of tourists coming to the lions darshan in Gir forest is increasing massively every each year. https://newsfeed.co.in/top-stories/gir-lions-attack-labourer-inside-devaliya-safari-park-tourist-entry-halted/ https://m.dailyhunt.in/news/india/english/mera+news+english-epaper-meraeng/sasan+lioness+drags+tracker+into+forest+kills+him+two+other+injured+in+the+attack-newsid-102677384 Body of the lioness of 10 to 12 years was found in Tulsi Shyam Range The body of lioness found in Gir forest 6th lion death this month 
Going back to the topic of Asiatic lions that existed outside India, I noticed something interesting. As noted by The Iran Project (https://theiranproject.com/blog/2014/02/...to-persia/), Indian lions were on the verge of extinction in India in the early 1900s, but Iranian lions weren't extinct before the 1940s, meaning that lions were still around in Iran when their Indian relatives were on the verge of extinction. It is reported by some that the last Iranian lions were sighted in the 1940s (https://books.google.com/books?id=esV0hc...er&f=false), with the last living one seen in northwest of Dezful City in 1942 (Note that this book has a rare photo of a Caspian tiger's skin in Page 66: https://books.google.com/books?id=t2EZCS...&q&f=false), and that a dead lioness was found on the banks of the Karun River in Khuzestan Province, 1944 (http://www.academia.edu/31713932/Potts_-...b3015e.pdf ), but not all sources say that the Persian lion got extinct in the 1940s.
This document (https://www.researchgate.net/publication...on_in_Iran) says that the lion became extinct in Iran 56 years before 2016, which is 1960, and this book (https://books.google.ae/books?id=tGddDwA...0s&f=false) says that a lioness was killed in a cave in Fars Province in 1963, and her cubs taken as captives! Either way, sadly, Iran didn't have its own equivalent of people like Lord Curzon (the role of the Nawab of Junagadh shouldn't be ignored) to save its lions and tigers, as noted by The Iran Project. Aside from that, I would like to remind that I have photos and a video of lions (dead or alive) from Iran and Pakistan: 1) Photo by Antoin Sevruguin in Iran, circa 1880: modified from http://collections.si.edu/search/results...cstype=all  *This image is copyright of its original author 2) Shirea the Persian lioness, brought to Dublin by King Edward VII in 1902 (Dublin Zoo would have Asiatic lions nowadays, but I don't think that any are of Iranian descent): https://www.museum.ie/The-Collections/Do...an-Lioness  *This image is copyright of its original author 3) As stated by Nowell and Jackson, page 39 (http://carnivoractionplans1.free.fr/wildcats.pdf), it is thought that the last lion of what is now Pakistan was shot near Kot Diji in 1810, but this is disputed, with a British Admiral accompanied by 2 witnesses claiming to have seen a large, maneless lion devour a goat near Quetta in 1935 (https://books.google.com/books?id=4eTaAA...sc=y&hl=en). Regardless, in what is now Pakistan, the lion was said by Kinnear to have occurred in the area of Bahawalpur (https://archive.org/stream/journalofbomb...Bahawalpur), and Bahawalpur has a zoo called "Sher Bagh" (Lion Garden) which is said to have the stuffed lion that was Pakistan's last, look at 6:12–37, it is incorrectly called a 'tiger', but we can see that it is a stuffed lion:
Lion trackers deal with wild lions couple of feet away, but lion don't feel threatened or tense of human presence, as they are habituated and understood to see lots of them who just roam around but don't do anything like in this video.
A farmer, Gobar Bharwad, of Nigada village in Khamba Taluka, Amreli district, was chased by three lions while he was on his way to the orchard. The farmer was chased by three lions — including a lioness. The lions had been spotted there for the last three days. https://www.dnaindia.com/ahmedabad/repor...nt-2691103 Caught on cam: Villagers scaring away lions Dhari: Viral Viral of 19 Lion Group In 13 days during Diwali, more than 75,000 tourists visit Sasangir and crores of turnover and income for Government  (12-01-2018, 01:00 PM)Sanju Wrote: Dhari: Video Viral of 19 Lion Groupbeautiful pride...?
Lions are vanishing at alarming rate & HEALTHY, INNOCENT 33 SEMARDI LIONS CONFINED FOR 2.5 MONTHS. NO RELEASE YET. If not released, the truth will be out some day.
https://twitter.com/Chaitan08772375/stat...1397955584 *This image is copyright of its original author *This image is copyright of its original author *This image is copyright of its original author The Forest Department of Gujarat has found a decayed carcass of another/one more lioness in the Gir forest, the last abode of the Asiatic lion in the world. 3rd such incident in past 1 month. While the cause of her death is awaited, the search is on for her three cubs. Kheemabhai Mensibhai Bhola, a farmer in Ambalash region in Talal, Gir Somnath district, found the dead lion in his farm on Thursday. A search is on for the three missing cubs. In October, 23 lions were found dead in a short span of 11 to 12 days. Some of the endangered lions succumbed to the deadly infection of Canine Distemper Virus (CDV). The present case has raised concerns among Forest Department officials. http://www.meranews.com/news/view/corpse...wneaimT_Z8 https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/sci...jarats-gir https://www.business-standard.com/articl...117_1.html
Lion attack unearths illegal safari park run by Gujarat government
Published: 08th December 2018 07:17 AM | Last Updated: 08th December 2018 08:53 AM | A+A A- By Richa Sharma Express News Service The Devaliya Safari Park is situated close to the Gir National Park, the only home to Asiatic lions in the world.  *This image is copyright of its original author "Devaliya Safari Park" (BTW... the lion in the picture is one of the most stunning looking asiatic lion I've ever seen  ) NEW DELHI: The Central Zoo Authority (CZA) has blamed the Gujarat Government for illegally operating the Devaliya Safari Park in Junagadh where a forester was killed and two labourers grievously injured in a lion attack on November 30. Quote:The CZA, which provides permission for running safaris, sent a communication on Friday to Gujarat’s Chief Wildlife Warden, Department of Forests and Environment, seeking to know how a lion safari was being operated in the park. The CZA investigated the incident following a complaint filed by Bhopal-based wildlife activist "Ajay Dubey" (One man army  ) and found that the Devaliya Safari Park had neither taken permission for operating the park nor for running the safari. What is worse, the park had been "illegally operating for years".  *This image is copyright of its original author -"This guy as usual .""D T Vasavada" (again this guy as usual), Chief Conservator of Forest, Wildlife, Junagadh, admitted that the safari is run by the Gujarat forest department but refused to comment on the CZA notice. The Devaliya Safari Park is situated close to the Gir National Park, the only home to Asiatic lions in the world. Quote:“You are requested to inquire into the circumstances leading to death of personnel in the illegally operating safari in Devaliya. Also, it is to advise that appropriate action be taken against the operator for illegally operating safari... as per the provision of the Wildlife (Protection) Act, 1972. Action taken in this regard should be apprised... within 30 days,” CZA Member Secretary Anup Kumar Nayak said in his letter. Quote:“This is also to inform you that this office through a series of letters in 2009, 2016, 2017 and 2018, informed the "Chief Wildlife Warden" Dubey has sought an FIR against the zoo operator. “Officers of the Gujarat government are responsible for the death of a forest employee and the state should lodge an FIR against the zoo operator.I will also be approaching the National Human Rights Commission seeking action against the "state government" ,” he said. As per the 2017 census, there are 650 Asiatic lions in Gir and nearly one-fourth of them live outside the core habitat.http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2...08714.html |
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