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Felids Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts
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 (09-24-2018, 10:58 PM)leopard Wrote: I don't remember who posted the stuff about National Geographic and others lying etc but this is actually a proof that they might. Take a look at the original encounter and the 'edited one'. I was banned because i don't believe. It reminds me of Kim Chen In and his residents of the North Korea. This is done for Nyers and similar humans. Human was born to think like a dictated by a brain  (09-25-2018, 12:40 AM)AlexE Wrote:(09-24-2018, 10:58 PM)leopard Wrote: I don't remember who posted the stuff about National Geographic and others lying etc but this is actually a proof that they might. Take a look at the original encounter and the 'edited one'. I agree people are trained to think and act according to expectation, Alex, but that doesn't mean that those with a different view will be expelled or banned everywhere all the time. Over here, members are not banned bacause of their views. They're banned because they ignore forum rules and good advice of mods. Here's a summary of the forum rules: - Don't post when you are drinking (new); - Stay away from politics (North Korea, this time); - Don't get angry with members disagreeing with your contributions (people disagree with each other everywhere all the time); - Stop blaming others (Nyers in this case) for whatever reason, and - Focus on good information. So far, we've been very lenient, Alex. This, however, is the last time I'm intervening. Ok? I'm not a babysitter and neither are the others. You joined because you're interested in animals. Post about them, respect the rules when interacting with members and contact a mod when you have a problem.  (09-24-2018, 10:58 PM)leopard Wrote: I don't remember who posted the stuff about National Geographic and others lying etc but this is actually a proof that they might. Take a look at the original encounter and the 'edited one'. NatGeo doctors footage a lot & often you can see scenes from several documenaries punched into one to make a "juicy story". I once saw the Umarpani-Kingfisher fight from Kanha, being described as tiger siblings getting seperated. They just stole the video off the internet & didn't even provide credits. (09-25-2018, 12:40 AM)AlexE Wrote: I was banned because i don't believe. It reminds me of Kim Chen In and his residents of the North Korea. This is done for Nyers and similar humans. Human was born to think like a dictated by a brain It's important that you to know why you were banned. It was because you're were calling people liars without any substantial proof. Everybody here doubts the stuff posted by others from time to time, that normal. But the reason for that must not be political conspiracy theories. Every claim you make, must be backed up by facts or noone would take them seriously...  
About #499: beautiful painting ! The anatomies, coulours and mouvements are perfect... The director is a master.
Incredible!
"Yesterday at Bologonja area, this male leopard was surrounded by nine lions! According to our safari guide friend, he was large, agile and intimidating so the lions eventually left him alone."  *This image is copyright of its original author
 (10-14-2018, 10:11 PM)AlexE Wrote: Hyena couldn't fight off lion like a leopard and was easily killedWhy haven’t you been banned? You’re just spamming the threads with pointless posts about how superior the leopard is... This video makes no sense to how a leopard and Hyena fight would turn out, the leopard has more weapons, the lions are careful with the claws that can damage the eye sight... but if a lion grabs the neck of a leopard it sure would have the same outcome! Grow up and stop these pathetic fanboy comparisons, they can both kill eachother
Came across these pretty rare pictures of the famous 'leopard vs 4 lionesses' encounter.
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From: Bush 24 Posted on October 15th, 2018
Coming up against a big male lion – brave caracal mom saves her kittens! A young caracal hisses aggressively in a futile attempt to scare off a big male lion! The little one is one swipe away from certain death but it has help – a scene plays out where its mom comes to the rescue, putting her body on the line to defend her kittens! See below the full photo series of one of the best sightings of my life!  *This image is copyright of its original author The story begins on the crater floor at 644am. The Ngorongoro, possibly Africa’s greatest and most famous wildlife theater often plays host to incredible sightings that people get to witness on a daily basis. We were one of the first into the caldera, a huge area teaming with wildlife and had already spotted some lions. Wildebeest, flamingoes, golden jackals and hyenas were also in view as we watched a pair of secretary birds standing proud on their acacia top nest. At 6:44 though, we had seen another lion and he was some distance off! We caught up with this big King, walking along with purpose and posing in perfect light!  *This image is copyright of its original author The male walked right toward us on a number of occasions. We were in awe. He brushed right past our car, literally touching the vehicle with a flick of his tail. And then out of nowhere…he decided to mark his territory! Raising his tail once again, he proceeded to spray the back left hand-side of the vehicle showing us exactly who was boss in these parts! (I have pics to prove it and fortunately that window was closed!) Time and time again, the male walked past our vehicle and we eventually left him after about 15 minutes of intense viewing and looped around to a hippo pool. Up ahead we could see yet more lions including a male and we figured he was heading that way. But as we made a turn toward the waterhole, some Thompson’s gazelles were not happy and their alarm calling gave away the presence of a caracal family, the mom which had appeared to be trying her luck at catching one of these nimble antelope! Not happy to have been spotted she took her youngsters into some thick grass and up until this point we had had only glimpses of one of the most sought after cats of any avid safari goer. One thing was obvious though…she had lead her cubs directly into the path of the male lion we had been watching and the wind was not in her favour! At 7:04 am things took a turn for the worse for the little family as the female realizes making a hasty getaway is not an option – she had been spotted!!  *This image is copyright of its original author I can only imagine the fear they must have felt! She wouldn’t back down and straight away the male gave chase…  *This image is copyright of its original author In the long grass – death seemed imminent – we were sure the male would grab her but she had made a last minute dash to safety! Sadly though, the male had spotted the kittens and he was on a mission to find them! Their mom though, incredibly returned to the area just a few seconds after her near miss!  *This image is copyright of its original author The big lion sniffed around and first I was relieved to see that he hadn’t noticed the one cub…maybe it had a chance!  *This image is copyright of its original author But no…he turned around quickly and it melted into the long grass!  *This image is copyright of its original author He looked down at the easiest of targets but before he could do anything, the heroic mother seemed to be ready to sacrifice herself. The long lens shows them to be close, and she was, only a few feet away from meeting her own death! To see 2 of Africa’s cats like this was quite incredible!  *This image is copyright of its original author Her persistence was paying off. The lion takes his eyes off the youngster and focuses on their mom once again. To the bottom left you can see the kitten trying its best to do anything in this shocking situation, its life and its mom’s life hanging in the balance!  *This image is copyright of its original author With heightened aggression she swung around snarling at the big lion!  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author Her plan worked. She lured him away! And again she allowed him to get closer than one would think possible!!  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author And then they both walked straight back to where the kittens were. By this time the Thompson’s gazelles were back taking great interest in the sighting – 2 of their arch enemies having a standoff!  *This image is copyright of its original author And the male returned to the cowering little one – it was going to be all over!  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author And for the last time mom came to the rescue!  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author And as quickly as the incident had began at 7:08am the male looked across to another lion and decided that this game of cat and mouse was no longer worth it!  *This image is copyright of its original author The caracal family had survived! Here mom reconnects with what one would expect to be a traumatized youngster. Instead they both looked around for the other kitten – we knew where it was and left the scene knowing that this family had escaped a close call – we left them in peace!  *This image is copyright of its original author Meanwhile the local cranes once again stirred up, announcing their displeasure at the caracals presence – no doubt, just like the gazelles, also upset with the way things ended!  *This image is copyright of its original author Thinking in depth about this sighting there are many unanswered questions: Why did the lion decide to spare the kittens life? Was the male lion more interested in the lions nearby? Why did he waste his energy chasing the female around instead of just killing the cubs? If it is down to competition why have lions been recorded killing species like Serval or Aardwolf then? Or am I over thinking it and did the female do enough to save her kittens, knowing that the male would eventually give up? Possibly! Either way. this was an incredible spectacle of nature, the challenges that these animals face on a daily basis are beyond what one can imagine – in fact we only witness so little of what actually happens out there and every time we do, we learn about the fascinating behaviour of these creatures. Just like humans though, we can’t make a blanket rule about how species must behave. We always like to have the answers to why something is the way it is but sometimes we must realize that we will never know all the answers. I do suspect that there is a lot more going on with wildlife than we mostly give credit for – perhaps the predators of the Ngorongoro Crater interact differently to others in other areas and perhaps there is more tolerance from a big male lion towards a caracal that he has possibly run into a number of times in this small piece of paradise they both call home!
@Fredymrt :
About #508: awesome ! I don't know what to think about... Perhaps the apex predators don't take care at all of much smaller predators that aren't direct competitors. So yes, the impala can fear both lions and caracals, but a big satiated lion under the burning sun ( even during the morning) is a lazy king, too lazy to get its paw on a such elusive cat ! As concerns the caracal mother: hats off ! 
@Fredymrt
I appreciate your posting and telling us about this awesome incident, However I suggest you to always link back the original source of the story. In this case I am doing it here, but please take care of this in future.. Below is the original source of the above story posted by Fredymrt http://www.bush24.com/blog/brave-caracal-mom-protects-her-cubs-from-big-male-lion |
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