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the Selati coalition

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(01-07-2018, 08:25 PM)Amayas Wrote: Are all the selatis dead now?

It may very well be the case, I haven't seen any update on the remaining male.

(01-07-2018, 08:25 PM)Amayas Wrote: Did any of their cubs survive?


I'm not really sure about that, but maybe there's a chance with the Talamati pride, but I don't know for sure.
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Sad if true, it's the end of another era it seems.
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The talamati pride is well and there is 3 sub adult sons of selatis that are very health.
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Selati #1a large male lion stalks ever closer to an unsuspecting Warthog
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There's a distinct lack of articles and videos on selatis vs majingilanes. We know the majingilanes wanted the western sector off them and there were clashes. The majingilane eventually took them down, but is there any info on their battles? A neat summary somewhere? Have tried a forum search but no results. Thanks.
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(04-30-2018, 04:34 PM)Leroy Wrote: There's a distinct lack of articles and videos on selatis vs majingilanes. We know the majingilanes wanted the western sector off them and there were clashes. The majingilane eventually took them down, but is there any info on their battles?

There are some in the Majingilane thread, I'll also post them here.

This one is the first:

Lion Warfare – Southern Pride Sadness: By Talley Smith and Rich Laburn - June 14, 2011.

The Majingilane Coalition and the Southern Pride were close to each other. Both prides lying unaware of each other’s presence a mere 900 meters apart, we knew we were in for a potential evening showdown as dusk settled in. First the Southern Pride yawned, stretched and then rose to begin walking east into Majingilane territory. Moments later the radio crackled – the Majingilane Coalition were now also active and beginning their routine patrol…

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The sound of impala alarming stopped the Southern Pride in their tracks. Realizing the impala weren’t alarming at them they stared into the darkness to see the shape of a leopard walking down the road. The unsuspecting Nottens female froze upon seeing the lions, but quickly fled up a nearby Marula tree when the Southern Pride came chasing after her. Interest was lost quickly and the pride carried on eastwards.

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Meanwhile, the Majingilanes had also heard the impala alarming and quickened their pace to investigate from the opposite direction. The three males stood on the crest of the road, sniffing the air, panting misty breaths of menace as the Southern Pride continued walking straight towards them, unaware. Then with stiffening bodies, the two prides saw each other and froze still.

Southern Pride Young Male by Rich Laburn

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A quick glimpse left and right, tails straightening, the Southern Pride knew they were in trouble and spun around to sprint west back down the road. The Majingilane Coalition began their chase in hot pursuit, roaring incessantly at full pace. Each of the lions disappeared as they broke through the bush in full flight whilst we desperately tried to keep up.


Suddenly we heard the unmistakable bellows of a fight, in the bush to our west. We ventured in and found what we had feared: the 3 Majingilane males sat panting next to the badly wounded Southern Pride young male. The unnatural angle of his hips was a sure sign that his back had been broken. His head was up, and he was breathing hard through an open mouth. There was a deep puncture wound on his shoulder. Every time a Majingilane moved, he mustered a low growl. The 3 attackers were quiet but attentive to the night sounds; it seemed as though they were waiting for the rest of the Southern Pride to come to their fallen comrade. They never did.

The next morning, we saw that the 3 coalition members had gone north across the river causing more disruption as though unable to control the sudden burst of testosterone, dominance and aggression caused by the nights activities. The Southern Pride young male lay dying in the same spot, whilst rest of the 5 members of Southern Pride were all located together on Castleton – far west of the Majingilanes’ territory. Later that day, the young male died as a result of his injuries, his regal body now a part of the earth and his noble spirit moving through the ether. The Lion Warfare continues…

Deceased Southern Pride Young Male Lion by Adam Bannister

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Selati males vs Majingilane males.

Part II of their saga, now with the Selati males already as dominant males.

Credits to Inyati.

14.09.2012: The larger male of Selati coalition of lions ran past the front of the lodge roaring this morning, upon close observation we notice fresh, bleeding battle wounds, we latter received reports of three Majingelane males and one Othawa lioness in the area he came running from.
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26.10.2012: They also faced their first challenge as the Majingilane Coalition stole the Othawa females for 2 nights on their eastern boundary! The 2 coalitions roared at each other throughout the night but there was no battle, seemingly the Majingilane are stronger as they are older and in their prime but the Selati boys did stand their ground and the Majingi’s went straight back east the following day!
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21.03.2013: Three Majingilane male lions and two of the Selati were in a territorial dispute few minutes ago. The Majingilane had the upper hand since three of the Selatis are still injured, two were injured in recent battle and the third one was injured by buffalo isn't well enough to participate in this fight.

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21.03.2013: The dispute this evening took place at boundary between Singita/Ottawa and exeter portion 5 of the western sector of Sabi Sand. Things are calmer now I can no longer hear the roaring I think they separated with no or less fatalities. It’s three Majingilane and and two Selati (no.3 and no.4) and no.3 have got his bottom lip bitten as seen in in this picture above. The Majingilane had the upper hand. 
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27.03.2013: All 4 Selati males were found together this morning for the first time since the battle with the Majingilane! They look confident and proud showing a few minor injuries sustained while securing their territory!
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28.03.2013: Two lioness of Othawa pride and four Selati males were found on fresh buffalo kill this morning. The eye of Selati one and the lips of Selati three is looking much better and Selati two will also hopefully recover soon.
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Credits to Singita.

Rival male lions come face to face (Article and images by guide, Marc Eschenlohr). (Images here on the link)

April 2013.

We set out for our afternoon game drive with the intention of following up on a male lion that had been seen in the morning, lying on the sandy banks of the Sand River - at a place we call 'the beach'. As we approached the first drainage line, lined with massive jackalberry trees, we heard the sound of a Wahlberg’s eagle that was not happy about something... Not being able to see what the commotion was about, we used our binoculars to have a closer look, and discovered a large Verreaux’s eagle-owl, perched in the
shade. The eagle was taunting the owl. Owl mobbing by diurnal birds is fairly common, as they see them as a threat. Owls will prey on roosting birds, and in the case of Verreaux’s eagle-owls, they feed on a wide range of prey including young monkeys and warthog piglets.

As the owl flew off to another large dense riverine tree, followed by the eagle, we heard a male lion roaring and the sound was coming from the beach. As we arrived there my colleague, Mark Broodryk, radioed that he had found the lion lying close to its last position. We were lucky to hear him roaring once more. Roaring is ability unique to leopards, lions, tigers and jaguars. It is
due to two hyoids bones in their throats that vibrate, and a specialized larynx. The male was most likely trying to find his brothers - they had been separated for the past week since one of them had been seen mating with a lioness. The male we were looking at had not been as victorious and was recuperating after a rather vicious fight that left him limping and in a rather sorry state! What followed next could not have been predicted.

We saw the head of a rival lion emerge from the tall grass on the northern bank, a mere fifty metres from him. We sat patiently and saw another head appear… then another. They were three large males from a coalition known as the Majingilane. Their territory extends to the east of Singita and rarely have they been seen so far west.

Our male, the Selati male, seemed to have no clue of the danger he was facing, as the three males peered down the bank but were unable to spot him lying on the sand! Luckily for him he didn’t roar and opted for what lions do best, which is sleep...


A hooded vulture landed right in front of him, adding to the eeriness of the scene. My tracker Mishack and I were convinced the males would soon descend the bank and most likely kill the
lone male. After 30 minutes of sniffing the air and gazing intently they made their move. Choosing a prominent game trail north of our male, scent marking as they came down the bank, they arrived at the river's edge. Two of the Majingilane then crossed the river.

At this point the third male saw our single Selati male. Our male crouched and held his ground. The Majingilane male started making soft moans and contact called his brothers who were looking about on the southern bank. The Selati male then, to our utter astonishment, stood up and strode towards the third brother, who quickly crossed the river to join up with the other two.

When all three regrouped and realised they had no sign of him on the southern bank, they turned to see him standing defiantly on the opposite side. Galvanized together they chased after him, running through the river and out of view. The Selati male had a good 50 metre lead on the Majingilane males, and ran due north. After 10 minutes we heard lots of roaring and saw three Majingilane males running south, through the river and being trailed by the Selati male and a couple of minutes later one of his missing brothers. The territorial dispute was over and the Majingilane males opted for a hasty retreat rather than fighting the two Selati males.

What an amazing afternoon full of surprises and excitement that ended well for all of them. It was good to see the Selati males stand their ground, because a couple of years ago, before they had become territorial males, they had lost another of their brothers to the Majingilane males. This was the first time we've witnessed them coming face to face since, and it will surely happen again. They are now evenly matched, a total of four in each coalition, and all in their prime.
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27.05.2013: The Selati male lions were chasing each other over a lioness, little do they know that their enemy, Majingelane coalition are inside their territory resting at only about three kilometers away from them.
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Selati males vs Majingilane males.

Part III. February to May 2014.

Credits to Khimbini - Inyati.

09.04.2014: Two of the selati male lions were seen this morning, the remain nervous and one (Selati 3) have bad limp from the recent encounter with majingelane male lions. For couple of days now we haven't seen the selati 1, who is badly injured.

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10.04.2014: All three Selati males are together, on drive, now, Selati 1 and 3 are both limping heavily, all three are hungry but the fact they are together and moving is a positive sign.
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