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Big cat and Bear tale
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Nice clips @Rishi .One thing I like to say about tiger and sloth bear interaction is that unlike Himalayan black bears, sloth bears generally are not a direct competitor of tigers. They tend to challenge leopards in Srilanka but never heard of sloth bear challenging tiger over a kill, therefore tigers over time must have learned to deal it with caution esp mother with cubs and as a general nature of carnivores but doesn't have to go all out, as can be seen in the last clip. And sloth bears happily can survive in ants termites and honey its primary food source without ever having to follow other predators for food. With Himalayan black bears things would surely be more intense, it's larger in size, direct threat to cubs and more competition due to its scavenging nature.
 (11-29-2017, 08:18 AM)Rishi Wrote: @Jimmy Yes they dont that's for sure, but diet wise Himalayan black bears have also been noted as a cattle lifter and they act more predatory that's why I think completion with tiger will be more intense.  (05-04-2017, 04:34 AM)Garfield Wrote: But about the bears and tigers, I was talking to this bear guy on youtube, and he was from another country, I think it was Russia some where around Europe, and he was tellin everyone they have it all backwards, tigers just don't take out grown bears, here's what he posted to me. I thought it was funny becaz all the tiger bros were getting all mad and I'm like give the bear some props guys, I mean their built tough different than cats, stuff is legit. Here's the guys post below, its gut biologist and stuff in it. @ Boy, you've badly been MISINFORMED, big time!! That Russian guy is a Youtube troll, who hates Tigers with a passion! I've seen his posts, their ridiculous. When i showed him accounts of Tigers dominating and killing Bears, he just started swearing, going mad and he even threatened a little 11 year old girl over this debate. First of all, NO Bear can take on 3 Tigers and win, no way! I'd bet my life on it, that the account is fake, period. You can't just read some captive accounts and get to conclusion from there. There's captive accounts of Lions killing huge Bears in fights, so it makes no difference. You said "Grown bears aren't taken"...again, you're totally wrong! There's MANY accounts of full-grown adult Brown bears being killed and eaten by Tigers. The Amur tiger Dale, who was a habitual Bear killer, killed numerous adult Brown bears and 2 adult male Black bears. Two of the Bears he killed were after prolonged FIGHTS. Tigers Misha and Dima all actively hunted Bears and killed grown adult bears with no problems. Tigers tackle bears, much larger then themselves. Bears are generally afraid of Tigers and run away from their tracks, And an account of a Tigress that easily killed an entire Brown bear family, without ambush. (Mammals of the soviet union)  *This image is copyright of its original author Large bears were chased from their dens by Tigers!  *This image is copyright of its original author 200kg Tiger that specialized in killing Brown bears BIGGER then he is.  *This image is copyright of its original author Bears prefer to contest the much smaller female tigers, lest it become an item of Tiger diet.  *This image is copyright of its original author Tigers attack and eat both Brown and Black bears on a fairly regular basis. A very large Brown bear gets observed running away from Tiger tracks. Russian brown bears belong to the same species as the American grizzly, and can reach 1000lb in weight. In spite of this, their known to FLEE at the sight of a Tiger. Tigers pick fights with Bears, prosecute the battles, and proceed to tear the Bears apart, limb from limb! (John vaillant) https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=WGvV...ear&source Large adult Brown bear killed by a Tiger That Russian youtube troll, will never acknowledge this evidence. Don't listen to idiots like that, who spread lies and false propoganda. Tigers are WELL KNOWN to dominate, hunt and kill adult Brown bears. Even in the 44 direct confrontations observed in the wild (Fights)..the Tigers killed the Bears in majority of the fights. Many large adult Brown bears have been killed and eaten by Tigers. The Amur tiger is widely acknowledged and considered by ALL the Russian locals, hunters, guards, natives and biologists, as the Undipusted King of the Russian forests and the Master of the Taiga! 
"Sloth bears seldom feed on carrion (a highenergy resource and a possible source of protein), probably because of the risk of predation by sympatric predators, tiger and leopard, which generally guard their kills (Laurie and Seidensticker 1977). There could also be competition for carcasses from efficient scavengers such as the striped hyaena and wild pig."
"Tigers attack and kill sloth bears occasionally (Joshi et al.1999, personal observations), however encounters between them are fairly common (unpublished data). Incidents of sloth bear mortality caused by predators have been reported from several places in its range (reviewed in Joshi et al. 1999). In Panna, sloth bears had several agonistic interactions with tigers and were also occasionally killed by tigers (unpublished data).Tigers attack and kill sloth bears only occasionally (Laurie and Seidensticker 1977, Joshi et al. 1999 and the references therein), however encounters between them are fairly common (unpublished data). Tiger avoidance may not be a primary force in shaping the diel activityof sloth bear, because they do not seem to have a strictly prey-predator association.Tigers do prey on sloth bear (Laurie and Seidensticker 1977,Joshi et al. 1999, unpublished data), but the killings may happen primarily during close encounters between them, and not as a case of hunting. Sloth bears are aggressive, strong, with sharp claws and large canine teeth and they could inflict serious injuries on tigers. There have been instances when tigers have been injured or chased away by sloth bears or both withdrew during such close encounters (Joshi et al. 1999, personal observations). So,the tigers too may perceive a risk and therefore avoid encountering bears.For the bears, tigers may just be adversaries, with the outcome risky mainlywhen encountered suddenly. Therefore, it may not be critical for sloth bears to avoid the timings when tigers are active. Sloth bears in Panna NP did not seem to avoid tigers spatially either. They frequently use habitats such as escarpments that tigers also frequently used. Escarpment habitat offers suitable daytime resting sites for both species and they use this habitat frequently and simultaneously. However, it is possible that the bears may be avoiding certain microhabitats that tigers frequently use, or actively avoid tigers by avoiding places where they are present. I have found evidences of active avoidance of tigers by sloth bears and relatively frequent vigilance behaviour in bears (personal observations) in Panna NP. My observations on interactions that sloth bears had with conspecifics,tigers and humans in Panna indicate that there are several responses that are common in these interactions, particularly in the way sloth bears reacted to both tigers and humans.Sloth bears actively avoided tigers and humans when they became aware of their presence in advance. When they heard suspicious sounds made by humans, tigers, or even alarms raised by other animals such as sambar (Cervus unicolor) or common langur (Trachypithecus entellus) to the presence of predators or humans, the bears became vigilant.They paused their activity and waited for further sounds or scents, looked in the direction of the sound, or exhibited such vigilant behaviour. When the bears sensed the presence of adversaries, they stopped their activity, moved in a different direction or even took shelter under secure cover. Sometimes,they did not emerge out of dens until long after their usual times of start of activity. Occasionally they also fled on sensing a threat, or at other times,they rushed towards the tiger or the human. Similar reactions were also observed in Chitwan NP, Nepal. At close quarters, sloth bears reacted to humans and tigers similarly, often by roaring and running away, or roaring and attacking before retreating (Laurie and Seidensticker 1977)" K.Yoganand, 2005, “Behavioural Ecology of Sloth Bear (Melursus ursinus) In Panna National Park, Central India”, thesis PhD, Saurashtra University "We never observed Sloth bears eating carrion or preying on other mammals. McDougal (pers. comm.) who conducted an extensive tiger baiting programme in Western Chitawan reported only one instance of a Sloth bear feeding from a buffalo killed by a tiger. Sanderson (1890) reported that occasionally Sloth bears scavenged tiger kills and gnawed on cattle bones" A. Laurie,J. Seidensticker 1976 "Behavioural ecology of the Sloth bear (Melursus ursinus)"
Book: "Fear in the animal world", by Joel Berger.
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This is new small video from Ranthambore National Park, where a mother sloth bear chased away the tiger when he was trying to ambush attack her cubs.
   (12-19-2017, 06:11 PM)Pckts Wrote: Looks like a sub adult, I wonder which tiger it is. It was shot by a ranthambore guide Mr. Ashok Jain. The tigress is The Sultanpur female (T-39) aka Noor, territory is spread over Ranthambore's Zone 1, 2, & 6. She's about 8 years old... Left flank visible at 1:35.
I'm no graphic designer that's for sure but here's my attempt at comparing both.
The bear is a little closer to the camera, the tiger runs behind the true and the bear runs in front, but still cool to see.  *This image is copyright of its original author
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