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Talamati/Msutlu Pride
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 (02-04-2025, 09:05 PM)Mapokser Wrote: @FACR2212 Mangheni was with 1 other male and a pride with cubs in his 2023 sightings. Thanks for the information, it's needed because I've been on this for much less time and I've basically made the figure thanks to the input I can gather from your posts. As I said before I will update the diagram. Here is the picture of late 2018 with IDs according to a post by @criollo2mil *This image is copyright of its original author And this is the picture shared by @Brahim, taken in 2021, where Talamati Matimba male is supposed to be with 2 unrelated males (without Manghenis) *This image is copyright of its original author
In that 2018 photo there's only the Mangheni seen in 2023.
The other 2 males besides Mangheni and Talamati were identified later by Brahim as the unrelated partners seen later with Talamati. There's also a photo of Mangheni with the 2 unrelated males in the road. Basically the second Mangheni went missing early on just like the third brother and since at least 2018 it has been Talamati, Mangheni and those 2 unrelated males.
I found this short from one month ago starring all the 7 playful older cubs and two females.
I also found a report from Sabi Sabi: https://www.sabisabi.com/discover/weekly...sh-vol-535 ... "It was reassuring to see the three youngest cubs reunited with the pride and well-fed. However, they remained noticeably thin, as they had been struggling to compete for their share of food against their larger cousins." Therefore, 3/4 cubs of the youngest litter seem to be alive. It would make the count up to ten cubs in total, seven around 1 year old and three around 6 months old.  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author Credits to Franco Hay 
"The Msuthlu Pride has been a consistent sighting throughout the weekend, although the long grass and drizzly weather have made it difficult to get clear views. That all changed on Sunday when we found them lying in the open on the road, offering an incredible opportunity to observe their behaviour. The older cubs were playful, stalking one another, while the three youngest - still noticeably skinny - attempted to suckle from their mother.
After some time, the entire pride got up and walked about 20 metres before settling under some nearby bushes. They have been moving frequently across the reserve, hunting at night, although we have yet to see them with a successful kill. With the continued rains, the pride may find an advantage in securing a much-needed meal for their young." Credits to Ronald Mutero and Franco Hay  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author
(04-25-2024, 08:38 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: THE MSUTHLU PRIDE Thank you very much @criollo2mil . Based on your post and lattest sightings I'm going write what I think is the current composition of Msuthlu pride: - 4 Lionesses sired by the Northern Avocas born appx mid 2018-early 2019 - Total of 10 cubs
Clipped Ear is the mother of the Oldest litter of 3 Cubs (2F/1M). Big Blue is mother to second litter of 2 cubs (1F/1M) Dark Amber is the mother of the third litter of 2 cubs (1F/1M) Hence, Brown Tawny is the mother of the youngest litter (2F/1M)
Clipped Ear
 *This image is copyright of its original author Big Blue  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author Brown Tawny  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author Dark Amber:  *This image is copyright of its original author
Brown tawny has the youngest 4 but the southern pride killed one of her 4 cubs
Also worth mentioning that I believe these four females are two sets of sisters  (02-20-2025, 06:21 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:(02-19-2025, 07:19 AM)FACR2212 Wrote: Hence, Brown Tawny is the mother of the youngest litter? Do you know how many males and females are in the second and third litter? (02-20-2025, 11:58 PM)FACR2212 Wrote:(02-20-2025, 06:21 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:(02-19-2025, 07:19 AM)FACR2212 Wrote: Hence, Brown Tawny is the mother of the youngest litter? the litters from Blue Eye and Amber eye females are both 1M/1F each oldest litter from clipped ear is 2F and 1M |
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