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(12-24-2024, 06:14 PM)UNLAL11 Wrote: Shots from Sunset Safari on Sunday. Kruger male and Little Amber mating, with the S. Avoca male not too far away.
Southern Avoca male sleeping.
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Kruger male and Little Amber
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Hi I had seen the video earlier of Kruger male lion and Southern Avoca. Guid says beautiful male lion and how beautiful male lion looks. I noticed he looks like a male lion oldest sibling of T. Kruger reminds me of the male lion. Male lion was called stared with an M.
I would like to know if Kruger male lion reminds any male lions.
12-25-2024, 10:34 PM( This post was last modified: Yesterday, 04:02 AM by Mapokser )
Can anybody confirm this? It has been claimed that these 4 young males on Northern Sabi Sands were the sames that were with the Ross male, and not only that, but that they are Skorro males. People are even saying 2 older are the Hercules & Sumatra sons, while 2 younger ones are Mbiri sons:
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This one in the front does strike me as having Mbiri blood:
12-25-2024, 10:53 PM( This post was last modified: 12-25-2024, 11:05 PM by sunless )
(12-25-2024, 10:34 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Can anybody confirm this? It's been claimed that these 4 young males on Northern Sabi Sands were the sames that were with the Ross male, and not only that, but that they are Skorro males. People are even saying 2 older are the Hercules & Sumatra sons, while 2 younger ones are Mbiri sons:
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This one in the front does strike me as having Mbiri blood:
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Have also asked other WildEarth viewers if they can be only Mbirhi Males sons because as the takeover of Mbirhi Males with the Skorro Pride there are 2 females that is pregnant with Hercules and Sumatra cubs and they said that the Mbirhi Males did not kill those cubs, also quite confuse about that thing.
Others are saying that all of them is Mbirhi Males sons but others are also saying 2 males is sire by Hercules and Sumatra and the other 2 males is sired by the Mbirhi Males, also quite confusing with this.
Also location wise they are near the Buffelshoek/Djuma boundary (Northeast of Djuma) and also the Dark Mane Mantimahle crossover to Torchwood.
Looks like Nkuhuma Pride will most likely split then as we thought, and it’s starting with Little Amber not being fully accepted by the Kambulas. Mantimahles haven’t mated with rest of Nkuhuma Pride and Kambulas haven’t really mated with Little Amber, K6 might have towards the end as he was seen with her but the others won’t accept her if she was to become pregnant.
KM + S.Avoca have also only mated with Little Amber aside from that report detailing they were mating with 2 Nkuhuma lionesses a month ago, which many believe was false.
So pretty much the only way a split doesn’t have to happen is if somehow all lionesses don’t conceive and a single coalition claims the entire pride.
(Yesterday, 01:14 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Been discussing it with a few others but I think those 4 on Djuma today are actually the Monwana Males, looking for second opinions
Yea looks like Monwanas.
Not sure who claimed that these are Skorro young males, as far as i know, theres no photos of those young males (unless im wrong?), so how can anyone know? (Unless some guide knows them, which i doubt as they are in Kruger).
(Yesterday, 03:03 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Its 100% Monwanas, all 4 id's:
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This could be used for ID's in future, as looks like they will be roaming around.
Not sure where other 2 are, biggest one is known to be "loner".
One is still with their natal pride and I don’t really know how that’s possible with BDMs mating with them lionesses. I guess he’s just been extremely lucky up to this point.
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(Yesterday, 12:48 AM)KM600 Wrote: Looks like Nkuhuma Pride will most likely split then as we thought, and it’s starting with Little Amber not being fully accepted by the Kambulas. Mantimahles haven’t mated with rest of Nkuhuma Pride and Kambulas haven’t really mated with Little Amber, K6 might have towards the end as he was seen with her but the others won’t accept her if she was to become pregnant.
KM + S.Avoca have also only mated with Little Amber aside from that report detailing they were mating with 2 Nkuhuma lionesses a month ago, which many believe was false.
So pretty much the only way a split doesn’t have to happen is if somehow all lionesses don’t conceive and a single coalition claims the entire pride.
I really think it's unlikely Little Amber will split off on her own. She's actually doing a very smart thing. If she's mating with all the males in a short time frame, none of them are gonna know that the cubs aren't theirs. Cedric has commented on her doing this as well, saying something along the lines of she's keeping the males occupied to take some pressure of the pride, taking one for the team. And I think he would have said something if her mating with these males meant she might split off from the rest of the pride, but he (nor any of the other guides) have given any indication of this. Obviously they can't see into the future, but they're pretty good at analysing the lion dynamics. I think it's pretty standard behaviour.
Plus I think it was confirmed that she mated with K6 (though I could be wrong), and I think either Pale Eyes or Ridge Nose's daughter was seen mating with one of the Mantimahle males. So she's not the only one. And we saw her mating with them not too long ago, so obviously she didn't conceive then. She might not this time. With things being so tumultous in the north the Nkuhumas are probably quite stressed.
Who knows what's going to happen, but I don't think Little Amber's behaviour suggests she's going to break off from the rest of the pride.
