There is a world somewhere between reality and fiction. Although ignored by many, it is very real and so are those living in it. This forum is about the natural world. Here, wild animals will be heard and respected. The forum offers a glimpse into an unknown world as well as a room with a view on the present and the future. Anyone able to speak on behalf of those living in the emerald forest and the deep blue sea is invited to join.
"Brett McBride is captain of the MV OCEARCH, and a main player in the handling of captured sharks. He’s a guy who has spent a lot of time on the ocean, and he recounted an experience he had as a teenager.
According to his story, he was harpooning swordfish off the coast of California from the deck of a boat when he and his shipmates heard of a white shark nearby and went to investigate. Their ship had a 42-foot plank where the harpoon man would stand, and as the ship passed the great white they marked its length from nose to tail by that plank.
They measured it later to be thirty feet!"
That shark in the second video has been a basking shark, people living in that area haven´t been in no panic. And many people recognized this shark to be a basking shark. Can you imagine reactions if there would have been a world record great white shark, never seen before. Don´t you think, that all shark experts around the world would be flying there to investigate....
Anyone having doubts, just look at that video. That shark has long and quite slender body, then look at the gap between front part of the dorsal fin compared to back part of pectoral fins, typical for the basking shark, not for the great white shark. Also look at shape of the dorsal fin, again not at all what great white sharks have but what basking sharks have. With pectoral fins difference can be more difficult to notice.
Then again that third case about claimed 30 feet great white shark is once again something which no-one can confirm and no-one has never seen such sharks in reality, unless a basking shark for instance. It actually can be confusing to see it when it´s not eating and swimming by. Some teenager boy, no matter what kind of an expert he later has become is far from reliable witness. If we would believe all rumors, we would think that there really are big foots and dragons. You post a lot of things about some "giant sharks" from very unreliable sources. We have a thread for cryptozoology separately, there is no need to pollute other threads with that kind of postings. You do post often good things, but time to time it looks like, that you post things you would like to be true with no critical view at all.
... Since when do basking sharks have the white underside that is typical of great whites? At 0:18–0:20, you should be able to see the white underside:
When looking at something through water, light can make some tricks. But when looking at fins and how they are related to each others, it´s clear, that it´s not a great white shark. Also look at that slender body, it was a hint too. When you have a massive great white shark, body is also quite different kind than on the video. There are no great white sharks in sizes 25-30 feet, which is also a very good thing to remember. Just write to any shark expert and ask for opinion if you don´t believe that one in the article I shared. Basking sharks swim also mouth closed often, when they look very different when comparing to sight, when it´s eating. @Pckts just pay attention and look those fins, body etc. That is no great white shark.
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This shark is one with many "faces" and very easy for people to make mistakes like thinking, that it´s a world record great white shark. When it´s eating and mouth open it´s not as easy to make mistake if seeing it properly.
1) Starting with the white shape or the light, though light can play tricks, the white underside is visible from different angles at different seconds, so that's no trick, but the shark does have a white underside typical of the GWS:
2) The dorsal fin isn't really different from that of the Great White below:
If one day there would be a credible observation and photos/video about 25-30 feet, 8-9 meters great white shark, you will see real marine biologists and shark experts go wild. You don´t see it, when there is a video of a basking shark like in this case. Nothing special in this. When "expert" is some amateur fisherman and Joe Rogan, I recommend to take it easy
What comes to freak specimens, when talking about great white sharks, Deep blue is a good example, 6-6,5 meters huge old female.
One more thing to notice when identifying sharks and looking differences between gws and basking shark. That smaller fin between dorsal fin and tail, gws has very small and it´s even when visible pretty tiny. Basking shark has bigger and when you watch that video, you can see quite big "middle fin" on back of this shark. Too many details showing too clearly that it´s a basking shark. Just contact some shark expert, someone well known who can be found and send email if you want to get another opinion in addition to that great white shark expert in that article I shared, did you read it? Great white shark expert said, that basking shark. This case is very clear, basking shark range covers that area where this shark was spotted.
Don't get caught up in the 30' claim, we all know people over estimate size.
And the actual person who took the video claims it's a GWS and I haven't seen a GWS expert claim it as a Basking or GWS, just that site which isn't from any specific marine Biologist
"JB Currell says - On our trip from Bermuda to Cape Cod yesterday on Distant Star with Tom Brownell. About 40 miles south east of Martha’s Vineyard we came upon the largest great white shark I’ve ever seen.
It was 25-30’ Long and weighed approximately 5 thousand pounds."
Here is a great Video of a Basking Shark for Comparison
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I'm not saying it's 100% one or the other but I'm certainly not discounting it actually being a White Shark, I see characteristics of Both.
Woah, I have never seen a great white shark that big before! It's big as the boat! It's so scary how big they can get. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near the shark even if I was on a boat.
09-06-2020, 01:24 PM( This post was last modified: 09-06-2020, 01:24 PM by BorneanTiger )
In January 2013, Brigitte Cary-Smith and her husband Neale believed that this crocodile (apparently of the Nile species (Crocodylus niloticus), estimated to have been more than 10 feet (3 m) long) encountered and got eaten by a massive great white, after swimming down river into the sea (in the Indian Ocean) at St. Lucia, 150 miles (241.4 km) north of Durban in South Africa: https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/4...ite-shark/
With local experts confident that the croc was not killed by a common hippo (Hippopotamus amphibius), bull shark (Carcharhinus leucas) or tiger shark (Galeocerdo cuvier), Neale said in a video: “You can see where the shark has actually ripped it. On the side here in the flesh you can see the shark teeth. It’s quite normal for sharks to swim here in the sea at St Lucia and it’s also very normal for very large sharks to be very close to the shore.”
(09-06-2020, 01:24 PM)BorneanTiger Wrote: In January 2013, Brigitte Cary-Smith and her husband Neale believed that this crocodile (apparently of the Nile species (Crocodylus niloticus), estimated to have been more than 10 feet (3 m) long) encountered and got eaten by a massive great white, after swimming down river into the sea (in the Indian Ocean) at St. Lucia, 150 miles (241.4 km) north of Durban in South Africa: https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/4...ite-shark/
With local experts confident that the croc was not killed by a common hippo (Hippopotamus amphibius), bull shark (Carcharhinus leucas) or tiger shark (Galeocerdo cuvier), Neale said in a video: “You can see where the shark has actually ripped it. On the side here in the flesh you can see the shark teeth. It’s quite normal for sharks to swim here in the sea at St Lucia and it’s also very normal for very large sharks to be very close to the shore.”
Actually, that's wrong; The crocodiles' head was Rather cut off by a ship Propeller, It's easy to realize that looking at it's remains:
That is a big fish. Hard to gauge its actual size due to underwater photography angles. 16-18'+, I'm guessing.
Its not the length thats impressive to me, its the girth.
That thing is so thick, its probably the widest GWS I have ev
@Pckts Just curious, do you know if the sharks actually ‘confuse’ humans for seals or do they deliberately attack humans? There’s a lot of people on YouTube saying things like sharks are not monsters they don’t attack humans blah blah but I find that very hard to believe.
Do you have a say on this? Do any of the three (Bull, Tiger or Great White) or any other sharks deliberately attack humans?
01-20-2022, 08:47 AM( This post was last modified: 01-20-2022, 09:15 AM by Pckts )
(01-20-2022, 08:35 AM)LonePredator Wrote:
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That is a big fish. Hard to gauge its actual size due to underwater photography angles. 16-18'+, I'm guessing.
Its not the length thats impressive to me, its the girth.
That thing is so thick, its probably the widest GWS I have ev
@Pckts Just curious, do you know if the sharks actually ‘confuse’ humans for seals or do they deliberately attack humans? There’s a lot of people on YouTube saying things like sharks are not monsters they don’t attack humans blah blah but I find that very hard to believe.
Do you have a say on this? Do any of the three (Bull, Tiger or Great White) or any other sharks deliberately attack humans?
I find it very hard to believe that an animal that has evolved to prey on seals for 1000s of years would mistake a human for one. I don’t know of any other predator that gets to use that excuse when they attack a human but for some reason because sharks live in water and humans can’t see well in water we use that excuse for them too.
05-17-2024, 03:42 PM( This post was last modified: 05-17-2024, 04:15 PM by ruimendes1 )
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Quote:It was a female specimen that was killed on December 28, 1965 by fishermen in the Bosphorus Strait off Maiden's Tower in Istanbul, Turkey, said to be 7 meters long and weigh 3000 kilos, which size was estimated through photographic analysis. by Ichthyologists Hakan Kabasakal at 7 meters long and Alessandro De Maddalena at 6 meters long.
Quote:Possible world record with photographic evidence 6 meters long and weighing 2500 kg?
It was a female specimen said to be between 6.70 and 7 meters long that was pregnant, estimated by experts Heather M. Christiansen, Victor Lin, Sho Tanaka, Anatoly Velikanov, Henry F. Mollet, Sabine P. Wintner, Sonja V. Fordham, Aaron T. Fisk and Nigel E. Hussey at approximately 6 meters long and weighing approximately 2500 kilograms, it was caught by fishermen off Seven Star Bay in Hualien Province, Taiwan on May 14, 1997.
