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Kambula/Ntsevu Pride

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Another video here



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Isn't it a bit unusual that the female subadult is hanging out with her 4yo brothers? I remember a report of Kambulas chasing the breakaway pride that was contact calling the main pride, there was also an incident where some Kambulas attacked a female who had left for some weeks so I'm not confidant they will accept her back, it seems that if a lion leaves for a single month the other Kambulas "forget" about their pride mate already.

But like, the subadult males are nomads, they've been a coalition of nomads for months now and she's still with them so technically she's not in trouble of being left alone? It's not like they'll chase her away but I can't recall any instance where a coalition of lions had a sister among them, odd behavior from these Kambulas subs.
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(12-02-2022, 07:23 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Isn't it a bit unusual that the female subadult is hanging out with her 4yo brothers? I remember a report of Kambulas chasing the breakaway pride that was contact calling the main pride, there was also an incident where some Kambulas attacked a female who had left for some weeks so I'm not confidant they will accept her back, it seems that if a lion leaves for a single month the other Kambulas "forget" about their pride mate already.

But like, the subadult males are nomads, they've been a coalition of nomads for months now and she's still with them so technically she's not in trouble of being left alone? It's not like they'll chase her away but I can't recall any instance where a coalition of lions had a sister among them, odd behavior from 

A recently posted video shows her attempting to return to the pride but she was met with hostility by one of the females and three of the males when she got close to them. Suppose it's fair to say she's not exactly choosing to remain with her brothers at the end of the day.

Edit: Post #1810 on the N'waswitshaka males page has the video I'm referring to.
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(12-02-2022, 07:23 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Isn't it a bit unusual that the female subadult is hanging out with her 4yo brothers? I remember a report of Kambulas chasing the breakaway pride that was contact calling the main pride, there was also an incident where some Kambulas attacked a female who had left for some weeks so I'm not confidant they will accept her back, it seems that if a lion leaves for a single month the other Kambulas "forget" about their pride mate already.

But like, the subadult males are nomads, they've been a coalition of nomads for months now and she's still with them so technically she's not in trouble of being left alone? It's not like they'll chase her away but I can't recall any instance where a coalition of lions had a sister among them, odd behavior from these Kambulas subs.

Its not, as that female is too young for mating, meaning that new dominant males of Kambula pride would prob kill her.

This is exact situation as Gingerella in Othawa pride when Tumbelas came.
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Moving this conversation here:

WRT to the number of Kambula females….

there were at least 11 (of 12) Kambulas accounted for on 31 August.   In this sighting of the Pride Core w N’waswitshaka  on the eve of their attack on the Styx Pride, we can count 7 lionesses.  This was when two sub females were still with the boys .   One of those girls joined the core on 30 September.  

So on 31 August we can account for 7 (core); 2 (Subs) and 2 (breakaways)

The reserves and their reports have had a torrid time keeping track.   They themselves made some miscounts in recent reports.   That final 12th girl  has always been the one I couldn’t find but thought that maybe was denning at the time of the beach photo

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“Just love all the interactions and especially how the big cats greet each other.In this setting it was the next day after they all had a great meal of the buffalo kill that we witnessed and the 2 Ndzhenga males  and 8 lionesses from the Ntsevu pride were lying together in the Sand River and one Ntsevu lioness came to greet this Ndzhenga male at Mala Mala,South Africa in October 2022.”

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Amahle N’waswitshaka w Kambula #3 (mother of the last two Birmingham Sub Asults).

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When was the last sighting of the youngsters?
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(12-13-2022, 07:23 PM)Tonpa Wrote: When was the last sighting of the youngsters?

Late November.   There was an IG Story by this same photographer that showed both 

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Kambula Breakaways seen with both daughters 

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The Four Male sub adults and their sister still up north

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So young Kambula female is still with the boys, and 2 breakaway females are with 2 cubs, but on this  recent sightings of Kambulas in MalaMala there was 9 females:





Does that mean that 2 missing young females are finally accounted for? As it was presumed that only 3 younger females are with Ndhzengas, alongside 4 older. 

They have prob been around before, but looks like this Kambulas with Ndhzengas are also hanging in groups, so its hard to follow them.
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Kambula Pride
  • As this pride is ever-evolving, the only grouping that requires no alterations is Kambula Group A (Two breakaway Lionesses and youngsters). Kambula Group A was seen on 13 days this month. The four females had a kudu cow kill at the Settling Ponds on the 5th. Hyenas attempted to steal the carcass but were unsuccessful. The furthest north they were found was at Clarendon Dam on the 16th. They killed and fed on a wildebeest female and calf and remained in that area for two more days. The furthest south they were recorded was at the Causeway on the 9th.
  • Kambula Group B (Young adults) was only seen twice this month. The older of the two females no longer spends time with this fragment. The group of young lions was at the Mlowathi Spot on the 7th. They were south of Mamba Waterhole on the 13th.
  •  Kambula Group C (Core Pride) was seen on 21 days this month. Four older females and five younger females are spending time together and in the company of the Ndhzenga males. On the 2nd, nine lionesses were with three Ndhzenga males at Beaumont’s Camp. Six lionesses and four Ndhzenga males were around Flockfield Tower on the 12th. Nine lionesses made short work of an impala lamb on the 22nd, west of West Street Bridge. On the 28th, perhaps for the first time, rangers and guests watched as a lioness gave birth at Kapen Open Area! The rangers were taken by surprise and, due to the situation's sensitivity, could not follow the female to see how many more she had or where she took the cub after giving birth. More of these lionesses are also showing symptoms of having given birth.
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(12-30-2022, 06:40 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Kambula Pride
  • As this pride is ever-evolving, the only grouping that requires no alterations is Kambula Group A (Two breakaway Lionesses and youngsters). Kambula Group A was seen on 13 days this month. The four females had a kudu cow kill at the Settling Ponds on the 5th. Hyenas attempted to steal the carcass but were unsuccessful. The furthest north they were found was at Clarendon Dam on the 16th. They killed and fed on a wildebeest female and calf and remained in that area for two more days. The furthest south they were recorded was at the Causeway on the 9th.
  • Kambula Group B (Young adults) was only seen twice this month. The older of the two females no longer spends time with this fragment. The group of young lions was at the Mlowathi Spot on the 7th. They were south of Mamba Waterhole on the 13th.
  •  Kambula Group C (Core Pride) was seen on 21 days this month. Four older females and five younger females are spending time together and in the company of the Ndhzenga males. On the 2nd, nine lionesses were with three Ndhzenga males at Beaumont’s Camp. Six lionesses and four Ndhzenga males were around Flockfield Tower on the 12th. Nine lionesses made short work of an impala lamb on the 22nd, west of West Street Bridge. On the 28th, perhaps for the first time, rangers and guests watched as a lioness gave birth at Kapen Open Area! The rangers were taken by surprise and, due to the situation's sensitivity, could not follow the female to see how many more she had or where she took the cub after giving birth. More of these lionesses are also showing symptoms of having given birth.

This report confirms that at least 9 Kambula females are with the core again.    This means all 6 of the Birmingham daughters are now accounted for.
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