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(11-20-2021, 03:11 PM)lionuk Wrote: Dunno where her daughter is. PC males are proving to be brutes, killing subadult females in SS..
the lioness Tsalala did not deserve this. I hope her daughter is well and she manages to rebuild Tsalala's legendary pride.
It is likely that her daughter ran away while the lioness was being caught. But without her mom, she is still too young to survive on her own (2.5 years old). However nothing is certain as she could do what the Othawa subadults did and hunt by herself.
Sure she will, but she must stay away from the PC who are becoming a serious threat to the lionesses and sub-adults of the pride in the area, someone has to put the PC in order.
Tumbela males are the only threat to PC males. Mangheni pride are tough as well, as shown by the killing of Styx young male.
Styx Male bled out of a severed artery, he wasn't killed. It was a wound more severe than it could have been
The problem for the Tsalala young female isn't her ability to survive on her own like the Sparta cub. Obviously the wild is unpredictable so all things are a danger but her skills should be good enough. She is 2 years and 10 months,nearly 3 years old. Certain lioness fall pregnant earlier like Sassy who had her first cubs at 3 years. The biggest problem is the other lions around her. She has no safety net. To the west is the Mangheni and Othawa, to the east is the Nkuhuma, to the south is the kambula breakaway and south east is the Kambula pride. She is also surrounded by males and can't use mating as a means to save herself. The only males she is safe with is her father but Nhenha is near the Kambula famales. She has to try and stay low and not bring attention to herself
(11-21-2021, 04:52 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Arteries don'tt slice themselves, so he was obviously killed.
Plenty of animals survive by avoiding lions. Like cheetah and leopards. If they can do it. So can she.
Lions squabble all the time, this wound was just a very unfortunate one. He wasn't killed, an accidental injury lead to his death. He wasn't mauled or his back broken etc. He bled out
Its still a bit far to assume he wasn't in a fight. Lions rarely attack that area unless the goal is to seriously harm. So I doubt it was an accident while playing or something.
(11-21-2021, 03:16 PM)Slayerd Wrote: The problem for the Tsalala young female isn't her ability to survive on her own like the Sparta cub. Obviously the wild is unpredictable so all things are a danger but her skills should be good enough. She is 2 years and 10 months,nearly 3 years old. Certain lioness fall pregnant earlier like Sassy who had her first cubs at 3 years. The biggest problem is the other lions around her. She has no safety net. To the west is the Mangheni and Othawa, to the east is the Nkuhuma, to the south is the kambula breakaway and south east is the Kambula pride. She is also surrounded by males and can't use mating as a means to save herself. The only males she is safe with is her father but Nhenha is near the Kambula famales. She has to try and stay low and not bring attention to herself
The young Tsalala could join the Kambula subadults who are half siblings and I doubt they will do something to her because she does not pose a threat, moreover her father would protect her from the Kambula lionesses that the Kambula subadults spend a lot of time with them, another option is to join Gingrella or Ximhungwe.
(11-21-2021, 03:16 PM)Slayerd Wrote: The problem for the Tsalala young female isn't her ability to survive on her own like the Sparta cub. Obviously the wild is unpredictable so all things are a danger but her skills should be good enough. She is 2 years and 10 months,nearly 3 years old. Certain lioness fall pregnant earlier like Sassy who had her first cubs at 3 years. The biggest problem is the other lions around her. She has no safety net. To the west is the Mangheni and Othawa, to the east is the Nkuhuma, to the south is the kambula breakaway and south east is the Kambula pride. She is also surrounded by males and can't use mating as a means to save herself. The only males she is safe with is her father but Nhenha is near the Kambula famales. She has to try and stay low and not bring attention to herself
The young Tsalala could join the Kambula subadults who are half siblings and I doubt they will do something to her because she does not pose a threat, moreover her father would protect her from the Kambula lionesses that the Kambula subadults spend a lot of time with them, another option is to join Gingrella or Ximhungwe.
Kambula subs would threat her like a prides threat rival prides - she would get killed. It would be intresting tho if she would meet up with Ximunghwe and young Othawa female.
(11-21-2021, 06:25 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Its still a bit far to assume he wasn't in a fight. Lions rarely attack that area unless the goal is to seriously harm. So I doubt it was an accident while playing or something.
Lions bite at anything they can. There was only one injury, a hole in his back. This hole was a severed artery from which he bled out. The wound could have even been caused by the Nkuhuma Male for all we know. Ubuso had wounds all across his rear the other day, Blondie was bitten on his back, the Tsalala female was bitten in her rear by the Kambula. All survived those injuries. The Styx Male had a single hole in his back, he was eating a meal in Singita one day and found in Londolozi the next bled out from that same hold. His death was just unfortunate. He wasn't killed by anything, a single wound led to his death. There is a big difference.
11-21-2021, 07:28 PM( This post was last modified: 11-21-2021, 07:28 PM by criollo2mil )
(11-21-2021, 03:16 PM)Slayerd Wrote: The problem for the Tsalala young female isn't her ability to survive on her own like the Sparta cub. Obviously the wild is unpredictable so all things are a danger but her skills should be good enough. She is 2 years and 10 months,nearly 3 years old. Certain lioness fall pregnant earlier like Sassy who had her first cubs at 3 years. The biggest problem is the other lions around her. She has no safety net. To the west is the Mangheni and Othawa, to the east is the Nkuhuma, to the south is the kambula breakaway and south east is the Kambula pride. She is also surrounded by males and can't use mating as a means to save herself. The only males she is safe with is her father but Nhenha is near the Kambula famales. She has to try and stay low and not bring attention to herself
To clarify for the records: Tsalala Young Female was born March 2019, making her 2.8 years old. Also, Sassy mated at 3.4 years old and had her cubs when she was 3.8 years old. so this makes her almost a full year short of being within mating/estrus age. Long, difficult path ahead.
The Tsalala sub-adult lioness has a long way to go. It's a shame, The Tsalala pride is one of the oldest lion prides in Sabi Sands along side with the Styx pride and Nkuhuma. Now, the future of the Tsalala pride is in the hand of this young female
11-21-2021, 08:47 PM( This post was last modified: 11-21-2021, 09:03 PM by BA0701 )
(11-21-2021, 07:26 PM)Potato Wrote:
(11-21-2021, 06:35 PM)Calvitoo Wrote:
(11-21-2021, 03:16 PM)Slayerd Wrote: The problem for the Tsalala young female isn't her ability to survive on her own like the Sparta cub. Obviously the wild is unpredictable so all things are a danger but her skills should be good enough. She is 2 years and 10 months,nearly 3 years old. Certain lioness fall pregnant earlier like Sassy who had her first cubs at 3 years. The biggest problem is the other lions around her. She has no safety net. To the west is the Mangheni and Othawa, to the east is the Nkuhuma, to the south is the kambula breakaway and south east is the Kambula pride. She is also surrounded by males and can't use mating as a means to save herself. The only males she is safe with is her father but Nhenha is near the Kambula famales. She has to try and stay low and not bring attention to herself
The young Tsalala could join the Kambula subadults who are half siblings and I doubt they will do something to her because she does not pose a threat, moreover her father would protect her from the Kambula lionesses that the Kambula subadults spend a lot of time with them, another option is to join Gingrella or Ximhungwe.
Kambula subs would threat her like a prides threat rival prides - she would get killed. It would be intresting tho if she would meet up with Ximunghwe and young Othawa female.
Not sure if they will cross paths, but that would be an incredible joining of three lionesses in need, if you ask me. Three lionesses, who to this point have really pushed through the hardest of times. She is about the same age as Ximungwe's cub, so it could give both of them something to fill the tremendous void they have both recently had forced upon them.
