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Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage

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2 S. Avocas with Sand River pride in Kirkmans Kamp:


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Sand River Pride consistent of 3 lionesses (2 older ones, 1 younger) and 1 cub fathered by Avocas.
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Dark Mane Avoca in northern Sabi Sands, by Cheetah Plains :


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I have one question, What will happend if avocas with meet each other?, i am not sure but, i think since last august they not seen each other.(Dark mane and other two)
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(06-26-2020, 04:40 PM)Dreadlocks Wrote: I have one question, What will happend if avocas with meet each other?, i am not sure but, i think since last august they not seen each other.(Dark mane and other two)

We dont know if they seen each other or not since then, most likely they did at some point.. 

Even if they didnt, by roars and scent marking they recognize each others on territory border.. DM exactly knows where his brothers are and vice versa..
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(06-26-2020, 04:40 PM)Dreadlocks Wrote: I have one question, What will happend if avocas with meet each other?, i am not sure but, i think since last august they not seen each other.(Dark mane and other two)

Most likely they see each others at least from time to time and keep their bond up. Most likely their bond still would be strong even if they wouldn't meet even from time to time. Mr T Mapogo was easly accepted back by his brothers after almost 2 years of formally spliting from a coallition (separate arena and prides). As I mentioned I do not think DM really split from a coalition, but as Mr T example shows even if he would I do not think Avocas would threat each others as rivals.
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(06-26-2020, 07:21 PM)Potato Wrote:
(06-26-2020, 04:40 PM)Dreadlocks Wrote: I have one question, What will happend if avocas with meet each other?, i am not sure but, i think since last august they not seen each other.(Dark mane and other two)

Most likely they see each others at least from time to time and keep their bond up. Most likely their bond still would be strong even if they wouldn't meet even from time to time. Mr T Mapogo was easly accepted back by his brothers after almost 2 years of formally spliting from a coallition (separate arena and prides). As I mentioned I do not think DM really split from a coalition, but as Mr T example shows even if he would I do not think Avocas would threat each others as riva
I know in bush can happend everything , they maybe meet each other time to time, but we do not have any photo or video, for me this is really interesting (another chapter of lions life), i am watching sabi sand lions around 4 years and i do not know what happening mapogos or matimba males split time, but i know when mr t went back he killed all cubs  sired by his brothers.
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(06-26-2020, 08:46 PM)Dreadlocks Wrote: I know in bush can happend everything , they maybe meet each other time to time, but we do not have any photo or video, for me this is really interesting (another chapter of lions life), i am watching sabi sand lions around 4 years and i do not know what happening mapogos or matimba males split time, but i know when mr t went back he killed all cubs  sired by his brothers.

Coalitions split up to control more territory and prides.. You could find this example in almost every bigger coalitions, when they conquer territory and sire cubs they often divide themselves between the numerous prides and only rejoin sometimes in patrols..

Best current example are Mantimahles, after they conquer Sand River and Plains Camp prides and mate with them, they left those prides for 5th Mantimahle, other 4 moved of, and now 3 are with Nkuhlu pride and 4th Mantimahle has his own pride on s21.. Idk where is 5th Mantimahle currently, he might rejoin his brothers after he lost those 2 prides..
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Amazing video made in Djuma reserve...short appearence of avoca male and talamati pride. 



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Mohawk Avoca :


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Dark Mane Avoca on this morning's Wild Earth broadcast. He has developed a beautiful mane and was limping slightly. Wonder if it's related to the earlier injury.

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(07-21-2020, 08:57 PM)Matimbalani Wrote: Dark Mane Avoca on this morning's Wild Earth broadcast. He has developed a beautiful mane and was limping slightly. Wonder if it's related to the earlier injury.

Thats permanent limp on his front foot.

Are you sure he was seen today? I couldn't find that..

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He is a great looking lion
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(07-21-2020, 09:06 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(07-21-2020, 08:57 PM)Matimbalani Wrote: Dark Mane Avoca on this morning's Wild Earth broadcast. He has developed a beautiful mane and was limping slightly. Wonder if it's related to the earlier injury.

Thats permanent limp on his front foot.

Are you sure he was seen today? I couldn't find that..

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I think Skorokoro of the Nharhu male is on the same way with the limp.
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