(04-29-2017, 12:38 AM)Garfield Wrote:

(04-28-2017, 11:58 PM)Pckts Wrote: @Garfield 
African lions are larger, close in dimensions but much thicker. I've spoke to numerous people who've seen both and they all say the same.
The mane could play a role in that though.

What about the arms though, are the Asiatic lion's arms stronger or thicker, African's are longer right?

(04-30-2017, 12:25 PM)Vinay Wrote:

(04-29-2017, 12:38 AM)Garfield Wrote:

(04-28-2017, 11:58 PM)Pckts Wrote: @Garfield 
African lions are larger, close in dimensions but much thicker. I've spoke to numerous people who've seen both and they all say the same.
The mane could play a role in that though.

What about the arms though, are the Asiatic lion's arms stronger or thicker, African's are longer right?

Yup,Asiatic lions have strong and thick arms.African lions mostly run-down the prey, longer legs help them Vs Asiatic lions hunt like normal cats.

If Barbary lions really exists they are nothing but Asiatic lions, as far as 'less-mane' in Indian/Gir lions there are two possibilities

1.All Big-Mane Asiatic lions are hunted in the past.
2.In Cold they grow large mane
3.Both

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(05-02-2017, 10:14 PM)Spalea Wrote: @Rishi:

About #285: these paintings are very instructiv ! The indian artists showed the asiatic lions as being able to fight the elephants as the tigers are. Were there some big lion huntings as they were tiger huntings (with elephants, sherpas, armed men on foot and so on) ? We could believe by seeing these paintings that the lion was depicted as being an adversary, a game, as "prestigious" as the tiger.

I only ask a question... The artists were and are the witness of their times.

(05-02-2017, 12:25 AM)Pantherinae Wrote: @Rishi keep posting I'm sure everyone loves it. 
Asiatic lions are by many me included very underrated, it wasn't until 3-4 years ago when I wisited an animal park in Sweeden called Parken Zoo I really could see how massive they where. I have been arround and working with an 250-260 kg African male lion. And this Asiatic male was every bit as big framing vise. An unbelievable animal. When he died of old age he weighed 191,5 kg. They said the zoo's veterinarian thought and estimated him to be arround 250 kg in his prime, and his female weighed and confirmed at 180 kg, the new male who's still young weighed 180 kg last summer. 

Here is a picture and a video of the old male. 

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(05-03-2017, 09:03 AM)Rishi Wrote: Check out these two works...

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I think tigers & lions might have gone a step little further than mutual cohabitation at some point in time!!!..      

(People must have seen these..How else does one explain the similar looks & stature & correct relative size w.r.t humans in two different paintings of different times from two different regions of India??!!!)

(05-03-2017, 10:18 AM)Spalea Wrote: @GrizzlyClaws :

About #287: clearly agree with you... We don't know directly how asiatic lions behave, within their diversity. There aren't written accounts about asiatic lions during the past centuries. But as concerns the artists and the paintings they realized about lion huntings, they did never painted "freely" without proof, but helped by oral descriptions, narratives. Thus we can perhaps, probably, conclude that lions benefited from a similar reputation to the tiger's one in terms of strength and bravery.

I don't like big-game hunting at all. Of any animal on Earth. But here, these paintings are projecting a popular vision about an almost extinct anima specy, and we enjoy only that in order to know how they were perceived. The extant asiatic lions being only a relic of what they were, they were almost eradicated (in a much more open living biotop, their gun hunting was unlucky much more easy than in the case of  the tiger living in a much more dense jungle) .

We know too, thank to these paintings, they hunted big bovids (and perhaps not only bovid cattle).