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Eomellivora piveteau - Prehistoric giant Honey badger - epaiva - 10-28-2018
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RE: Eomellivora piveteau - Prehistoric giant Honey badger - brotherbear - 10-30-2018
I have read very brief hints of a big Pleistocene wolverine relative also in North America; but no real info. Vert interesting topic epaiva.
RE: Eomellivora piveteau - Prehistoric giant Honey badger - Spalea - 10-30-2018
This beast, giant mustelid, would have been a nightmare for any opponent...
RE: Eomellivora piveteau - Prehistoric giant Honey badger - Shadow - 10-30-2018
(10-30-2018, 08:53 PM)Spalea Wrote: This beast, giant mustelid, would have been a nightmare for any opponent...
Something like grumpy hyena maybe :) But I doubt, that so suicidal, that it would have fought with bigger predators at the time too much. Big predators seldom see nightmares, but often rivals from whom usurp carcass or kill if not giving in voluntarily. It would be fun to know if this ancestor was with same attitude as current honey badger, but some things remain as mysteries...
RE: Eomellivora piveteau - Prehistoric giant Honey badger - Spalea - 10-31-2018
(10-30-2018, 09:56 PM)Shadow Wrote:(10-30-2018, 08:53 PM)Spalea Wrote: This beast, giant mustelid, would have been a nightmare for any opponent...
Something like grumpy hyena maybe :) But I doubt, that so suicidal, that it would have fought with bigger predators at the time too much. Big predators seldom see nightmares, but often rivals from whom usurp carcass or kill if not giving in voluntarily. It would be fun to know if this ancestor was with same attitude as current honey badger, but some things remain as mysteries...
Yes, you're right. I told that by transposing the actual wolverine's behaviour to this giant ancestor, perhaps a little bit too easy ! Of course we don't know, in first approximation knowing that the mustelid are very tough predators regardless of their size, I judged a little bit too quickly it could be the same for the pleistocene mustelids.
But which predator would like to fight against a mustelid having the actual jaguar's size ? The opposition would be anyway very hard, even if this giant mustelid was very careful.
RE: Eomellivora piveteau - Prehistoric giant Honey badger - Shadow - 10-31-2018
(10-31-2018, 01:17 AM)Spalea Wrote:(10-30-2018, 09:56 PM)Shadow Wrote:(10-30-2018, 08:53 PM)Spalea Wrote: This beast, giant mustelid, would have been a nightmare for any opponent...
Something like grumpy hyena maybe :) But I doubt, that so suicidal, that it would have fought with bigger predators at the time too much. Big predators seldom see nightmares, but often rivals from whom usurp carcass or kill if not giving in voluntarily. It would be fun to know if this ancestor was with same attitude as current honey badger, but some things remain as mysteries...
Yes, you're right. I told that by transposing the actual wolverine's behaviour to this giant ancestor, perhaps a little bit too easy ! Of course we don't know, in first approximation knowing that the mustelid are very tough predators regardless of their size, I judged a little bit too quickly it could be the same for the pleistocene mustelids.
But which predator would like to fight against a mustelid having the actual jaguar's size ? The opposition would be anyway very hard, even if this giant mustelid was very careful.
Yes, wolverines and honey badgers are pretty good in bluffing, but when they see, that bluff is called... well, in that way honey badger is maybe more suicidal sometimes. Wolverine at least understands when it is time to flee. But I think, that lion or some ancestor of lion has been the one taking carcasses from even jaguar sized mustelid. it has been still far too small to challenge big cats. Of course time to time even lion can let current honey badger to be, when not so hungry and aggressive little devil has been confusing :) There are some funny videos about that kind of confrontations, and then again quite brutal ones, when big cat has been in.... should I say not in the forgiving mood....