(05-16-2020, 06:20 PM)Spalea Wrote:

(05-16-2020, 04:28 PM)Shadow Wrote:

(05-16-2020, 03:30 PM)Spalea Wrote: @Shadow , @Rage2277 @Asad981 . Yes but keep in mind it's much more difficult to bring down an one-ton buffalo that an one-ton elephant. The farmer is a full mature alpha bull, the latter a juvenile one. Thus if you want to remind the most amazing feats by a lone lion, the prey's weight isn't the only one factor to take into account.

And as concerns the weight, the most amazing feat by a lone lion I recently saw was this one: a male lion bringing down an adult giraffe weighing 1,2 - 1,5 ton... Post #822 of this topic.

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My posting had nothing to do with buffalos. Anyway some very impressive hunts from lions what comes to elephants. Adult elephants are after all practically impossible to harm by any predator. But it´s interesting to see how old and big are still in danger if wandering around alone. Buffalos are then again another story as giraffes, all are naturally dangerous prey for obvious reasons.

I only told that the weight isn't the most significant criteria to consider a feat. Thus I am more amazed to see a lone lion killing one adult buffalo rather than a juvenile elephant which you refered to. A juvenile elephant is a hard prey to kill for anatomic reasons (thick skin...) but also a prey unable to defend by itself. By attacking a big buffalo or an adult giraffe a lone lion clearly risks its life. By hunting a juvenile elephant it only has to take its time.
But perhaps I was disturbing you by putting in perspective a lone lion killing a juvenile elephant. In this case, sorry saying that a little abruptly.

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(05-16-2020, 07:01 PM)Shadow Wrote:

(05-16-2020, 06:20 PM)Spalea Wrote:

(05-16-2020, 04:28 PM)Shadow Wrote:

(05-16-2020, 03:30 PM)Spalea Wrote: @Shadow , @Rage2277 @Asad981 . Yes but keep in mind it's much more difficult to bring down an one-ton buffalo that an one-ton elephant. The farmer is a full mature alpha bull, the latter a juvenile one. Thus if you want to remind the most amazing feats by a lone lion, the prey's weight isn't the only one factor to take into account.

And as concerns the weight, the most amazing feat by a lone lion I recently saw was this one: a male lion bringing down an adult giraffe weighing 1,2 - 1,5 ton... Post #822 of this topic.

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My posting had nothing to do with buffalos. Anyway some very impressive hunts from lions what comes to elephants. Adult elephants are after all practically impossible to harm by any predator. But it´s interesting to see how old and big are still in danger if wandering around alone. Buffalos are then again another story as giraffes, all are naturally dangerous prey for obvious reasons.

I only told that the weight isn't the most significant criteria to consider a feat. Thus I am more amazed to see a lone lion killing one adult buffalo rather than a juvenile elephant which you refered to. A juvenile elephant is a hard prey to kill for anatomic reasons (thick skin...) but also a prey unable to defend by itself. By attacking a big buffalo or an adult giraffe a lone lion clearly risks its life. By hunting a juvenile elephant it only has to take its time.
But perhaps I was disturbing you by putting in perspective a lone lion killing a juvenile elephant. In this case, sorry saying that a little abruptly.

No disturbing really, I just wasn´t thinkin about buffalos. But what comes to juvenile elephants, as I wrote it´s interesting to look at those situations and see where limits are. After all a juvenile elephant  covers a lot of elephants in different ages and sizes and they can be very dangerous, they can after all kill any big cat instantly if able to stomp even once over it. You for sure remember articles about juvenile elephants killing rhinos, when there were no adult bulls in the area. I would bet, that no big cat wouldn´t dare to approach those juvenile male elephants because they were bad news. Only bigger adult bull elephant is able to get those "youngsters" in line.

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(05-21-2020, 10:16 PM)LoveLions Wrote: Gore warning

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(06-01-2020, 08:07 AM)Sully Wrote: I think this may have been posted before but just incase

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Fig. 1. Lion Panthera leo dietary preferences based on Jacobs’ index (mean±1 SE) of 48 lion populations at differing prey densities. Black bars, species taken significantly more frequently than expected based on their availability (preferred); grey bars, species taken in accordance with their relative abundance; unfilled bars, species taken significantly less frequently than expected based on their availability (avoided). Only species recorded in lion diet more than once are included

Prey preferences of the lion (Panthera leo)