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RE: Lions in West-Africa - BorneanTiger - 01-24-2019
In the Senegal River Delta, on the opposite side of the Senegal River as the Djoudj National Bird Sanctuary in Senegal, is Diawling National Park in southwest Mauritania, where a lion was shot in 1970: https://www.ramsar.org/sites/default/files/documents/pdf/lib/hbk4-07cs12.pdf
Photo of Diawling by the IUCN: https://portals.iucn.org/library/taxonomy/term/67644
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What's interesting about Mauritania is that it isn't just considered a West African country (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/mr.html), but also a Maghrebi or Northwest African country. Northwest Africa is the region of Morocco, Algeria and the Atlas Mountains (https://books.google.com/books?id=VLjafeXa3gMC&q=north+west+africa+mauritania#v=snippet&q=north%20west%20africa%20mauritania&f=false), and consequently where the Atlas lion used to be.
RE: Lions in West-Africa - Lycaon - 01-24-2019
@BorneanTiger
Do you think that there are any surviving lion populations in the sahara desert?
RE: Lions in West-Africa - Lycaon - 01-24-2019
Here are some measurements
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RE: Lions in West-Africa - Lycaon - 01-24-2019
Some more
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RE: Lions in West-Africa - Lycaon - 01-24-2019
The last one for now
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RE: Lions in West-Africa - Rishi - 01-24-2019
(01-24-2019, 06:15 PM)Lycaon Wrote: I find it interesting that many people on this forum think west african lions look like gir lions. For me they look completely different from each other
Same here... As i said, they look like crossbreds to me.
Actually more like adolescent Asiatic lions with African face & sometimes, body shape. Adult asiatics tend to have more mane usually.
With some gir lion features they have many clear African lion traits too. Especially the shape of the skull.
Even if the two are of one genetic clade, make differences are bound to exist as they live thousands of kilometres apart!
RE: Lions in West-Africa - Lycaon - 01-24-2019
@Rishi
Do you have any pictures of these crossbreeds ?
RE: Lions in West-Africa - Rishi - 01-24-2019
(01-24-2019, 08:58 PM)Lycaon Wrote: @Rishi
Do you have any pictures of these crossbreeds ?
I may be able to find some.
This two look like they're hybrids. If you've seen a lot of Asiatic lions, then you can tell that these don't have the "look"...
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Read this: https://m.telegraphindia.com/opinion/beastly-tales-african-asian-lion-problem-was-first-spotted-in-the-us/cid/1019291 (male in article wasn't Asiatic but a hybrid)
RE: Lions in West-Africa - Lycaon - 01-24-2019
@Rishi
Thanks a lot
RE: Lions in West-Africa - BorneanTiger - 01-24-2019
(01-24-2019, 07:31 PM)Lycaon Wrote: @BorneanTiger
Do you think that there are any surviving lion populations in the sahara desert?
I don't know. Considering that lions inhabit the deserts or xeric savannahs of Southwest Africa, including the Kalahari region, it's not impossible for lions to live in deserts like those of the Sahara and Arabia (https://archive.org/stream/naturalistslibra16jardrich#page/88/mode/2up/search/sandy+deserts+of+Arabia), but as with Arabian lions, African lions are considered to be extinct in the Sahara: http://ens-newswire.com/2013/12/05/sahara-deserts-large-mammals-slipping-into-extinction/
Lion in the Angolan desert, before getting killed: http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/rare-desert-lion-killed-in-angola-after-supplying-unprecedented-data/32633
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RE: Lions in West-Africa - Lycaon - 01-24-2019
Here are some lions in w national park niger
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RE: Lions in West-Africa - Spalea - 01-25-2019
(01-24-2019, 06:15 PM)Lycaon Wrote: I find it interesting that many people on this forum think west african lions look like gir lions. For me they look completely different from each other
They have common characteristics (because they both live in dry environments) but they don't resemble each other. I don't know how to describe that but I find that the west african lions have clearly the mouth of African lions (better built).
RE: Lions in West-Africa - GrizzlyClaws - 01-25-2019
(01-25-2019, 12:56 AM)Spalea Wrote:(01-24-2019, 06:15 PM)Lycaon Wrote: I find it interesting that many people on this forum think west african lions look like gir lions. For me they look completely different from each other
They have common characteristics (because they both live in dry environments) but they don't resemble each other. I don't know how to describe that but I find that the west african lions have clearly the mouth of African lions (better built).
Mostly because they belong to the same subspecies, hence in a similar environment they would expose to many common traits.
The West African lions genetically cluster with the historical lions from Southeast Europe/North Africa/West Asia, also the Gir lions.
RE: Lions in West-Africa - Lycaon - 01-25-2019
Here is a beautiful male in waza national park Cameroon
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Photographer Ralph Buij
RE: Lions in West-Africa - Sanju - 01-25-2019
#89 wooowwww!!! beauty overloaded..