+- WildFact (https://wildfact.com/forum)
+-- Forum: Information Section (https://wildfact.com/forum/forum-information-section)
+--- Forum: Terrestrial Wild Animals (https://wildfact.com/forum/forum-terrestrial-wild-animals)
+---- Forum: Wild Cats (https://wildfact.com/forum/forum-wild-cats)
+----- Forum: Lion (https://wildfact.com/forum/forum-lion)
+----- Thread: Lions of Timbavati (/topic-lions-of-timbavati)
Pages:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
124
125
126
127
128
129
130
131
132
133
134
135
136
137
138
139
140
141
142
143
144
145
146
147
148
149
150
151
152
153
154
155
156
157
158
159
160
161
162
163
164
165
166
167
168
169
170
171
172
173
174
175
176
177
178
179
180
181
182
183
184
185
186
187
188
189
190
191
192
193
194
195
196
197
198
199
200
201
202
203
204
205
206
207
208
209
210
211
212
213
214
215
216
217
218
219
220
221
222
223
224
225
226
227
228
229
230
231
232
233
234
235
236
237
238
239
240
241
242
243
244
245
246
247
248
249
250
251
252
253
254
255
256
257
258
259
260
261
262
263
264
265
266
267
268
269
270
271
272
273
274
275
276
277
278
279
280
281
282
283
284
285
286
287
288
289
290
291
292
293
294
295
296
297
298
299
300
301
302
303
304
305
306
307
308
309
310
311
312
313
314
315
316
317
318
319
320
321
322
323
324
325
326
327
328
329
330
331
332
333
334
335
336
337
338
339
340
341
342
343
344
345
346
347
348
349
350
351
352
353
354
355
356
357
358
359
360
361
362
363
364
365
366
367
368
369
370
371
372
373
374
375
376
377
378
379
380
381
382
383
384
385
386
387
388
389
390
391
392
393
394
395
396
397
398
399
400
401
402
403
404
405
406
407
408
409
410
411
412
413
414
415
416
417
418
419
420
421
422
423
424
425
426
427
428
429
430
431
432
433
434
435
436
437
438
439
440
441
442
443
444
445
446
447
448
449
450
451
452
453
454
455
456
457
458
459
460
461
462
463
464
465
466
467
468
469
470
471
472
473
474
475
476
477
478
479
480
481
482
483
484
485
486
487
488
489
490
491
492
493
494
495
496
497
498
499
500
501
502
503
504
505
506
507
508
509
510
511
512
513
514
515
516
517
518
519
520
RE: Lions of Timbavati - criollo2mil - 08-20-2024
(08-19-2024, 11:27 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: These guys are legends, i am suprised how we didnt really talked about them more as one of strongest and most impressive duos in recent years.
I agree. But it’s because we just do t get great coverage of them and that area.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Mapokser - 08-20-2024
Mbiri and Birmingham pride feeding:
RE: Lions of Timbavati - MrLoesoe - 08-20-2024
(08-20-2024, 07:41 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Mbiri and Birmingham pride feeding:
Interestingly, ZigZag seems to be hanging out with the Birminghams more than Shaka. I assume Shaka is doing more patrolling or simply likes to stay on the boundaries of the pride (?). Both males were recently filmed together in the North of Manyeleti, in a Tintswalo video, and Shaka looked in great condition (just like ZigZag, much better than a few months ago).
RE: Lions of Timbavati - adamstocks16 - 08-21-2024
(08-19-2024, 11:27 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(08-19-2024, 10:18 PM)adamstocks16 Wrote: How old are Hosi & Socha now?
They are unrelated males,
Hosi is unknown male, prob came from Kruger.
Socha is from Balule (Impalabos pride).
They become territorial in Klaserie in early 2019, taking over Klaserie River Pride and ousting young Nharhu males from their natal pride.
So they are definetly older then Nharhus, who are born in (late?) 2014.
This is them in late 2019:
Hosi
*This image is copyright of its original author
Socha
*This image is copyright of its original author
They are prob around 11 now (my guess).
These guys are legends, i am suprised how we didnt really talked about them more as one of strongest and most impressive duos in recent years.
Yeah from those photos I would say Hosi around 5/5.5 and Socha maybe slightly older around 6 although maybe he just had better mane development. In any case they have definitely been one of the most successful duos around in recent years, just not talked about as much as Mbiris or Ross due to less info and updates from that area.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Mwk85 - 08-24-2024
Birmingham young male referred to as 'Nephew' with a young lioness from the Birmingham breakaway pride. They were seen mating several days after this. These two are related to some degree aren't they? I know she's the daughter of the Ross males, but his lineage isn't what I'm clear on.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - BA0701 - 08-25-2024
(08-24-2024, 10:17 PM)Mwk85 Wrote: Birmingham young male referred to as 'Nephew' with a young lioness from the Birmingham breakaway pride. They were seen mating several days after this. These two are related to some degree aren't they? I know she's the daughter of the Ross males, but his lineage isn't what I'm clear on.
If I'm not mistaken, he's called "Nephew" because he is BYM's sister's son. If so, then he would also be the progeny of the Ross Males, as well.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Mapokser - 08-25-2024
Birmingham white female on the third slide and Mbiri male on the fourth:
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Friarfan619 - 08-25-2024
Never knew ngala has cheetah very cool
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Mapokser - 08-25-2024
Mbiri male and Birmingham pride.
It seems Scar is spending time with the pride lately while Shaka is somewhere else:
RE: Lions of Timbavati - criollo2mil - 08-26-2024
(08-25-2024, 02:41 AM)BA0701 Wrote:(08-24-2024, 10:17 PM)Mwk85 Wrote: Birmingham young male referred to as 'Nephew' with a young lioness from the Birmingham breakaway pride. They were seen mating several days after this. These two are related to some degree aren't they? I know she's the daughter of the Ross males, but his lineage isn't what I'm clear on.
If I'm not mistaken, he's called "Nephew" because he is BYM's sister's son. If so, then he would also be the progeny of the Ross Males, as well.
Correct on all counts. ‘nephew’ of Osindile. Sired by The Ross So he’s half-brother to this Birmingham Breakaway YF
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Mwk85 - 08-27-2024
Not a recent sighting unfortunately, but the post does contain information on where he went prior to his vanishing as of late.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 08-27-2024
Tanda Tula update
That is not to say that I had had a bad week, but it was a little more work than the previous weeks. The River Pride and their cubs remained in the eastern sections along the Machaton River, but sadly it appears as though they too have lost a cub, with there now only being signs of four cubs (instead of five). We caught up with the pride a couple of times when I was on drive, but I was sad that they missed out on a large buffalo bull carcass just east of camp. The pride had been resting not far off during the day, but returned to the den that evening. During the night the hyenas found the carcass and began their fighting – usually enough to draw in some lions, and with the roars of a single Vuyela male getting closer, we headed out in the morning fully expecting to find a male lion or five feasting on the carcass. Instead we found about ten very nervous hyenas; even when the vultures descended to finish off the remains later in the morning, it failed to bring in any lions. The next morning, with very little of the carcass left, there were signs that a lion had been there, but without any real meat to be garnered from the carcass, he decided to move off.
*This image is copyright of its original author
The roars of the four Birmingham Breakaway males to the south-west may have drawn their attention, but we heard no response from the Vuyelas to the intruders’ roars. The next morning the foursome of young males moved west, but time will tell if they will be tolerated this close to Vuyela male territory. It was possible that these roars did keep the Sark Breakaways further north; they were seen twice on our north-western boundary, and we had them for a day on Nkhari after they had been found with a warthog kill – not a great meal for 16 lions, and it was clear that the young cubs were struggling to get a good meal with so many adults around. The Giraffe Pride was reported a couple of times in the west this week, but none of us ventured that far west to see them.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - criollo2mil - 08-27-2024
Osindile, taken by a guest a few weeks ago.
Credit: silc
RE: Lions of Timbavati - BA0701 - 08-27-2024
(08-27-2024, 12:42 PM)Mwk85 Wrote: Not a recent sighting unfortunately, but the post does contain information on where he went prior to his vanishing as of late.
I hope the rumors are not true, but as more time passes it does not look good for this legendary male lion.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - criollo2mil - 08-27-2024
(08-27-2024, 05:35 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: Osindile, taken by a guest a few weeks ago.
Credit: silc
Longer Version