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Birmingham Pride of lions

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(10-25-2020, 09:09 AM)TinoArmando Wrote:
(10-25-2020, 08:37 AM)BA0701 Wrote: From earlier today. Lioness doing what she can to keep the cubs away from Fabio.




In the first part of the video it's a lioness from the Maasai Mara.
Are you referring to that lioness?

No, later in the video, at around the 10:45 mark, is definitely the Ross male.
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Birmingham breakaway lioness and his tiny cub 
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(10-25-2020, 09:11 AM)BA0701 Wrote:
(10-25-2020, 09:09 AM)TinoArmando Wrote:
(10-25-2020, 08:37 AM)BA0701 Wrote: From earlier today. Lioness doing what she can to keep the cubs away from Fabio.




In the first part of the video it's a lioness from the Maasai Mara.
Are you referring to that lioness?
Oh I see.
Yeah That's Ross male the less dominant.
He's really looking fantastic and good looking as ever. It's getting old. But he didn't lose the Intimidation yet.
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I finally photographed the famous Birmingham pride and they have 6 cubs at the moment. More photos to come.
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Birmingham young male returned to the pride this morning on WE:


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Tyson Ross male kept close eye on him, while young male was very submissive, great interaction to see between the two:


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No fight accured afterall in that sighting, young male might be big, but the mass and raw power is still on the Tyson's side, you could see that Tyson was hesitate to fight also, he just wants young male to be submissive, to follow his rules, that he is the boss here..
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(10-25-2020, 04:06 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Birmingham young male returned to the pride this morning on WE:


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Tyson Ross male kept close eye on him, while young male was very submissive, great interaction to see between the two:


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No fight accured afterall in that sighting, young male might be big, but the mass and raw power is still on the Tyson's side, you could see that Tyson was hesitate to fight also, he just wants young male to be submissive, to follow his rules, that he is the boss here..
This was really exciting to watch.
The behavior of both males was awesome and interesting As Well
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Image by: Eric Exelby
Some of the Birmingham pride walking straight towards the vehicle.

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An afternoon well spent following a pride of lions at sunset. We got there just as they started moving and then the light got crazy!!!
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The young Birmingham male.
on recent sightings we can see how much he has grown in strength size and height. At the moment of when this photo has been taken by Eric. His limp was really so serious. Even Ngala rangers were speculating that he hasn't be able to survive of such hard injury as he once had in those times.
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Video of the interaction @Tr1x24 posted the images of, between the Ross male Tyson and the Birmingham Male. The young male is really walking very well on his once injured leg, as evident in the video. Birmingham Pride can be seen beginning at around the 5:33 mark.




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Wow had me right at the edge of my seat the whole time. This is why I love lions.
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I am not sure which lions would be moving in on the Birmingham Pride, @"TinoArmando" are you aware of who he is talking about? In the video, beginning at around 7:44, they show the Birmingham Pride, and they eventually all begin roaring. The narrator seems to imply that they are trying to ward off some intruding males, but doesn't mention who it may be. This is the first I have heard of this. Perhaps it is the males who were eating a buffalo a few days ago, when the Young Birmingham Male happened upon them during a long walk. If that is so, I believe they are a little too young to try and tangle with the Ross Males. Either way, the pride seems intent on letting them know there are a lot of them, and they have quite a few cubs right now.





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This video is even more recent, and they are now saying that apparently during his lengthy walk about, the Young Birmingham Male was spending time with the Mbiris, and suggest that he may build a coalition with them. Birmingham Pride video begins at 6:10, if the time stamp doesn't work.




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(10-26-2020, 11:32 PM)BA0701 Wrote: This video is even more recent, and they are now saying that apparently during his lengthy walk about, the Young Birmingham Male was spending time with the Mbiris, and suggest that he may build a coalition with them. Birmingham Pride video begins at 6:10, if the time stamp doesn't work.

Well, i highly doubt about that, i dont know of any case like that, when 1 unrelated male joined a big 4 or more coalition of related males in nomadic phase (when they are still in a pride it can happen, if the pride accepts unrelated male ). 

Most unrelated coalitions are made of 2 unrelated males, bigger coalitions are rare but it can happen, but then all males are mostly unrelated, or at most 2 brothers and rest unrelated (DeLaportes, Mpondos). 

Related coalitions of 4 or more brothers, usually dont accept any other males, because they dont have any value of him/them.. They already have numbers and that male would only be a competition for food, mating rights etc..

But who knows with Birmingham young male, he is quite an outlier so far..
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(10-26-2020, 11:51 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(10-26-2020, 11:32 PM)BA0701 Wrote: This video is even more recent, and they are now saying that apparently during his lengthy walk about, the Young Birmingham Male was spending time with the Mbiris, and suggest that he may build a coalition with them. Birmingham Pride video begins at 6:10, if the time stamp doesn't work.

Well, i highly doubt about that, i dont know of any case like that, when 1 unrelated male joined a big 4 or more coalition of related males in nomadic phase (when they are still in a pride it can happen, if the pride accepts unrelated male ). 

Most unrelated coalitions are made of 2 unrelated males, bigger coalitions are rare but it can happen, but then all males are mostly unrelated, or at most 2 brothers and rest unrelated (DeLaportes, Mpondos). 

Related coalitions of 4 or more brothers, usually dont accept any other males, because they dont have any value of him/them.. They already have numbers and that male would only be a competition for food, mating rights etc..

But who knows with Birmingham young male, he is quite an outlier so far..

Yeah, it sounded odd to me as well. I thought the Mbiris were a little more established of a coalition, than to allow this youngster to come trapesing in. However, as you stated, he does seem to be breaking the mold in so many ways. I cannot wait to see him once he fills out.
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