Tigers have good endurance?

[Shadow]

(08-01-2019, 10:19 AM)GuateGojira Wrote:

(07-30-2019, 11:33 AM)Shadow Wrote: And in this area I don´t think, that Thapar is an expert and his competence can and should be questioned if he alone claims something like that

Wow! Why I don't see the wave of critics about this statement? When I mentioned my point of view of Sankhala (which I proved extensively) I was almoust banned from this place and even @peter was included, but now that someone mention something negative about Thapar there is only silence, the same that happened with Dr Karanth before. Double standards?

Valmik Thapar is by far the man with more experience with tigers at this day, and at this moment he have very good backup for each one of his claims. About the speed issue, I think that probably it was a typo, as there is no coincidence that the maximum speed that I know is exactly the same the quote which is "60", but instead of miles it should be km, that is all.

I will get the book of Thapar "Tiger portrait of a predator" which includes the history of Genghis, I will see if he mention any speed measurement or maybe the figure of 60 kph came from the observations of others. I have saw videos of Genghis running and it is an explosive rush that last much more than the normal attack of any other tiger that I had saw. In fact, it is more impresive than the running of the tigress of Mr Antle in the video.

I questioned his competence on that thing concerning tiger running speed, because that statement (if true), based on known information is very odd. This has nothing to do with Sankhala or anyone else. I am not questioning here all what Thapar say. But what comes to running speed we have a lot of information about Cheetah, valid information from pretty serious studies with a lot of testing. If Thapar truly writes in his book, that tiger would run 60 mph, I do make questions and want to know more, that how has he made tests and what team has been there and has anyone else had same kind of results.

I have said before, that all make mistakes time to time and Thapar without a doubt has done those too. That doesn´t mean, that I would question his competence overall. I haven´t seen so far anything even closely as impressive, what comes to running speed, from any other big cat when comparing to cheetah. The way how cheetah accelerates and then runs in full speed makes videos of other big cats running look like lame. And knowing results from Cheetah, peak speed, I simply don´t believe that any other big cat is able to peak in same speed. Not if only one person say so in some book. But to be honest, I believe, that either there is typo or then Thapar has made there a mistake and publishes now information which isn´t true. When you get that book, it is very interesting to hear more. So I do respect Thapar as a person, who is important in tiger conservation and has a lot of knowledge. I just don´t take for granted all what he says, especially if he claim something, which is highly questionable when comparing to common knowledge. Mr. Antle then again is one interesting and controversial person, but he hasn´t ever even after his tests, valid or not, claimed that tigers would run as fast as cheetahs.

No double standards here, just criticism when certain claim is very questionable. I have said about Sankhala myself, that he has made conclusions which can be questioned with good reasons. And same goes with Karanth, Thapar, Anderson, Miquelle and all scientists, if someone makes suddenly an odd statement, it naturally creates questions if it is in contradiction with all other known information.

If you understood, that I was questioning whole competence of Thapar, then my writing left space for misunderstanding :) I questioned it what comes to running speed issue if he really claims, that tigers runs 60 mph. If he doesn´t , then different thing. Reply