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Breaking news: August 23, 2024. Assam: Elephant carcass found in Kaziranga; officials suspect tiger attack. The forest guards in Assam’s Kaziranga National Park and Tiger Reserve on Thursday said they found the carcass of an adult elephant. 


The carcass was found partially consumed, indicating a predatory attack.

“It was killed a few days ago, and a large part of the body is missing. It looks like some tiger-like carnivorous animal did this for meat,” said an official.

Officials denied chances of poaching as the tusks were not removed.

“The poachers kill the elephants for tusks…As per our view, no human was involved,” the official said.

Despite the incident, officials reported a positive trend in Kaziranga National Park, noting a decrease in poaching activities and an increase in the wildlife population.

“A large part of our forests was encroached upon in the past, but the state government conducted eviction drives, and as a result, animals returned,” explained another official. “These deaths are natural, which shows that the forests are getting their original status back.”  source: https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new...48063.html


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Mountainlord, i am a huge fan of your posting and debating skills. You are truly awesome.
Can you please approve my membership on your Animalfightlcub forum at Tapatalk, please?
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(09-17-2024, 11:06 PM)WildWarlord Wrote: @Apex Titan 
Mountainlord, i am a huge fan of your posting and debating skills. You are truly awesome.
Can you please approve my membership on your Animalfightlcub forum at Tapatalk, please?

Thanks! I appreciate that you're a fan of my posting and debating skills. 

The Animalfightclub forum was created by 'The Solo Hunter' some years back, but he stopped posting on forums a few years ago. I'm just a moderator.

However, for some weird reason, the forum/Tapatalk doesn't allow me to approve new memberships on the forum anymore. I didn't even know that you signed up to the forum, I can't even see if there's a new membership pending. I don't know what happened. The forum used to allow me, but not anymore. I'll see if I can fix the problem.

Otherwise I would definitely approve your membership if I could. 
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(09-17-2024, 11:03 PM)WildWarlord Wrote: Breaking news: August 23, 2024. Assam: Elephant carcass found in Kaziranga; officials suspect tiger attack. The forest guards in Assam’s Kaziranga National Park and Tiger Reserve on Thursday said they found the carcass of an adult elephant. 


The carcass was found partially consumed, indicating a predatory attack.

“It was killed a few days ago, and a large part of the body is missing. It looks like some tiger-like carnivorous animal did this for meat,” said an official.

Officials denied chances of poaching as the tusks were not removed.

“The poachers kill the elephants for tusks…As per our view, no human was involved,” the official said.

Despite the incident, officials reported a positive trend in Kaziranga National Park, noting a decrease in poaching activities and an increase in the wildlife population.

“A large part of our forests was encroached upon in the past, but the state government conducted eviction drives, and as a result, animals returned,” explained another official. “These deaths are natural, which shows that the forests are getting their original status back.”  source: https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new...48063.html


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Great account.

Just further confirmation that even adult elephants fall prey to tigers. Here's a 2nd report about this incident:

“It was killed a few days ago, and a large part of the body is missing. It looks like some tiger-like carnivorous animal did this for meat,” an official stated.

"Initial investigations ruled out poaching as a cause of death. Officials noted that the tusks were intact, which suggests that humans were not involved. “The poachers kill the elephants for tusks…As per our view, no human was involved,” the official added.

https://www.newsx.com/offbeat/assams-kaz...iger-kill/

The elephant carcass showed signs of a predatory attack by a tiger, the elephant was partially-eaten, and the tusks were completely intact. Forest officials also noted that there's been a decrease in poaching activities and an increase in wildlife populations in the Kaziranga National Park. Confirming that no poachers/humans were involved. This is a clear indication of a tiger kill.

Picture of the killed adult elephant:


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(09-18-2024, 06:11 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:
(09-17-2024, 11:03 PM)WildWarlord Wrote: Breaking news: August 23, 2024. Assam: Elephant carcass found in Kaziranga; officials suspect tiger attack. The forest guards in Assam’s Kaziranga National Park and Tiger Reserve on Thursday said they found the carcass of an adult elephant. 


The carcass was found partially consumed, indicating a predatory attack.

“It was killed a few days ago, and a large part of the body is missing. It looks like some tiger-like carnivorous animal did this for meat,” said an official.

Officials denied chances of poaching as the tusks were not removed.

“The poachers kill the elephants for tusks…As per our view, no human was involved,” the official said.

Despite the incident, officials reported a positive trend in Kaziranga National Park, noting a decrease in poaching activities and an increase in the wildlife population.

“A large part of our forests was encroached upon in the past, but the state government conducted eviction drives, and as a result, animals returned,” explained another official. “These deaths are natural, which shows that the forests are getting their original status back.”  source: https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new...48063.html


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Great account.

Just further confirmation that even adult elephants fall prey to tigers. Here's a 2nd report about this incident:

“It was killed a few days ago, and a large part of the body is missing. It looks like some tiger-like carnivorous animal did this for meat,” an official stated.

"Initial investigations ruled out poaching as a cause of death. Officials noted that the tusks were intact, which suggests that humans were not involved. “The poachers kill the elephants for tusks…As per our view, no human was involved,” the official added.

https://www.newsx.com/offbeat/assams-kaz...iger-kill/

The elephant carcass showed signs of a predatory attack by a tiger, the elephant was partially-eaten, and the tusks were completely intact. Forest officials also noted that there's been a decrease in poaching activities and an increase in wildlife populations in the Kaziranga National Park. Confirming that no poachers/humans were involved. This is a clear indication of a tiger kill.

Picture of the killed adult elephant:


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Was there ckaw or bite marks? I still can't comprehend how a tiger can kill an elephant when lions need a pride!.
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(09-21-2024, 06:27 PM)Bitishannah Wrote:
(09-18-2024, 06:11 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:
(09-17-2024, 11:03 PM)WildWarlord Wrote: Breaking news: August 23, 2024. Assam: Elephant carcass found in Kaziranga; officials suspect tiger attack. The forest guards in Assam’s Kaziranga National Park and Tiger Reserve on Thursday said they found the carcass of an adult elephant. 


The carcass was found partially consumed, indicating a predatory attack.

“It was killed a few days ago, and a large part of the body is missing. It looks like some tiger-like carnivorous animal did this for meat,” said an official.

Officials denied chances of poaching as the tusks were not removed.

“The poachers kill the elephants for tusks…As per our view, no human was involved,” the official said.

Despite the incident, officials reported a positive trend in Kaziranga National Park, noting a decrease in poaching activities and an increase in the wildlife population.

“A large part of our forests was encroached upon in the past, but the state government conducted eviction drives, and as a result, animals returned,” explained another official. “These deaths are natural, which shows that the forests are getting their original status back.”  source: https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new...48063.html


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Great account.

Just further confirmation that even adult elephants fall prey to tigers. Here's a 2nd report about this incident:

“It was killed a few days ago, and a large part of the body is missing. It looks like some tiger-like carnivorous animal did this for meat,” an official stated.

"Initial investigations ruled out poaching as a cause of death. Officials noted that the tusks were intact, which suggests that humans were not involved. “The poachers kill the elephants for tusks…As per our view, no human was involved,” the official added.

https://www.newsx.com/offbeat/assams-kaz...iger-kill/

The elephant carcass showed signs of a predatory attack by a tiger, the elephant was partially-eaten, and the tusks were completely intact. Forest officials also noted that there's been a decrease in poaching activities and an increase in wildlife populations in the Kaziranga National Park. Confirming that no poachers/humans were involved. This is a clear indication of a tiger kill.

Picture of the killed adult elephant:


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Was there ckaw or bite marks? I still can't comprehend how a tiger can kill an elephant when lions need a pride!.

The reports or forest officials never specified if the elephant carcass had claw or bite marks, but according to them (and their expertise & experience), the elephant carcass showed signs of a "predatory attack" by a tiger, with a large portion eaten.

There was no sign or evidence of human involvement at all, so officials ruled it out.

Throughout history there has been numerous cases, reported by renowned hunters and naturalists, of tigers attacking, badly mauling and injuring, and even killing adult elephants. To add further credence to those cases, there are several modern day reports, reported by forest officials, deputy director's and rangers, of tigers attacking, severely injuring and killing adult elephants, including bull tusker elephants. Even some renowned biologists have stated that tigers prey on adult elephants.

Now, shall we just arrogantly dismiss all these accounts and call all those experienced hunters, naturalists, biologists, forest officials, deputy directors, and rangers...liars?? Are they all making up fairy tales for fun? Or shall we accept these accounts reported by well-respected and experienced authorities?

Tigers are capable of killing prey as large as adult rhinos and elephants (Field biologist, researcher & big cat expert, Mel Sunquist):



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Some years ago, after killing a buffalo, a tiger attacked, badly mauled and fatally injured a bull elephant:


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https://www.telegraphindia.com/north-eas...cid/568603


From renowned zoologist & mammalogist, Reginald Pocock - Mammalia

Tigers prey on all types of game, even on adult female elephants:



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As massive, strong and tough skinned an adult elephant is, the tiger has the weaponry, skills, speed and agility to kill it. Most people get caught up in this false "size matters" notion too much. That doesn't necessarily matter when two animals of a different species clash. Now we look at physical attributes and predatory skill.

An adult elephant is substantially slower, less flexible and clumsier than a tiger, who is renowned for its tremendous agility, speed, reflexes, precision and power. A tiger's massive, sharp and robust canines and razor-sharp claws can easily tear through and penetrate an elephants tough skin.

Here's a saying from the War and strategy writer, Wilbur H. Morrison:

"If the tiger ever stands still, the elephant will crush him with his mighty tusks. But the tiger will not stand still. He will leap upon the back of the elephant, tearing huge chunks from his side, and then he will leap back into the dark jungle. And slowly the elephant will bleed to death."

That saying sums it up perfectly. It's very easy for a tiger to outmaneuver and evade an adult elephant's charge head-on and leap upon its back, and once a tiger leaps on the elephants back and starts mauling it, its very difficult for the elephant to get the tiger off of him. The elephant's enormous size, stiffness, and cumbersome anatomy can be a disadvantage in a fight against a tiger. A tiger, being much smaller, faster, more agile and skilled, can run circles around an adult elephant like nothing. Its not all about size. Look at the anatomy and attributes of the larger animal too. Huge size and weight can definitely be a disadvantage in many situations.

Here's an account, reported by game warden, tracker & hunter, Colonel Kesri Singh (over 50 years of field experience in the Indian jungles), in his book "The Tiger of Rajasthan" of a tiger that killed a bull tusker elephant in a fierce, prolonged fight. Although the tiger was assumed to have been fatally injured, he managed to kill and tear apart the large bull elephant.

Colonel Kesri Singh's accounts and observations have also been accepted and referenced by modern tiger biologists and leading tiger experts like Karanth and Valmik Thapar. 

This account is called "Death by a Thousand Cuts."



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Taking all these factors into consideration, its not difficult at all to comprehend how a single tiger kills an adult elephant. Again, its been reported numerous times by very reliable sources and experts.
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I don't know where to put exactly this short video showing a tiger's unusual behaviour: three adult huge males tiger being associated as a gang, exactly as the lions do. Here these three males are now ruling over the Bandhavgarh Park, and this gang would pose a threat on the local leopards and seemingly other predators smaller than a tiger. I have read an account about a tiger in Siberia which, after having been hurt by a poacher, searched for this man to kill him properly and radically. Instinct of vengeance ? But I want to put this video because in this forum it is often said that tigers are able to change their behaviour in order to adapt oneself inside a perpetual moving environment like nowaday (where the wild life desappear very fastly because of the numerous human depredations over wild nature)...
Perhaps this video is a pure fantasy, probably but, I don't know, I'm not a specialist about the tiger's life, perhaps "intentions" were given to them (anthropomorphism).








" A Tiger Coalition TERRORIZES India's Wildlife.
In the dense and enigmatic forests of Bandhavgarh, India, one of the most untamed and isolated places on Earth, a distinct sound reverberates through the tree canopy—a powerful roar, the call of a predator at the peak of its strength: the call of the tiger.

We know that tigers are solitary animals, but when three of these striped giants join forces, something rare and truly dangerous happens—a coalition of strength and destruction. But this isn't a group of lions, it's tigers. And naturally, since this is far from ordinary, the balance has been disrupted. Leopards, masters of stealth, have always known how to navigate the depths of this jungle, avoiding direct confrontations with the apex predator. But now, something has changed. After all, these three super predators together are an unprecedented threat. This occurred in the Bandhavgarh Tiger Reserve in India and almost caused the region to fall in 2023.
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(09-27-2024, 04:52 PM)Spalea Wrote: I don't know where to put exactly this short video showing a tiger's  unusual behaviour: three adult huge males tiger being associated as a gang, exactly as the lions do. Here these three males are now ruling over the Bandhavgarh Park, and this gang would pose a threat on the local leopards and seemingly other predators smaller than a tiger. I have read an account about a tiger in Siberia which, after having been hurt by a poacher, searched for this man to kill him properly and radically. Instinct of vengeance ? But I want to put this video because in this forum it is often said that tigers are able to change their behaviour in order to adapt oneself inside a perpetual moving environment like nowaday (where the wild life desappear very fastly because of the numerous human depredations over wild nature)...
Perhaps this video is a pure fantasy, probably but, I don't know, I'm not a specialist about the tiger's life, perhaps "intentions" were given to them (anthropomorphism).








" A Tiger Coalition TERRORIZES India's Wildlife.
In the dense and enigmatic forests of Bandhavgarh, India, one of the most untamed and isolated places on Earth, a distinct sound reverberates through the tree canopy—a powerful roar, the call of a predator at the peak of its strength: the call of the tiger.

We know that tigers are solitary animals, but when three of these striped giants join forces, something rare and truly dangerous happens—a coalition of strength and destruction. But this isn't a group of lions, it's tigers. And naturally, since this is far from ordinary, the balance has been disrupted. Leopards, masters of stealth, have always known how to navigate the depths of this jungle, avoiding direct confrontations with the apex predator. But now, something has changed. After all, these three super predators together are an unprecedented threat. This occurred in the Bandhavgarh Tiger Reserve in India and almost caused the region to fall in 2023.
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This story is pure fantasy. If true, this story would defy the nature of the solitary tiger. And if true, this story would have been very well known and widely reported in numerous Indian media outlets/news reports. Indian wildlife naturalists, rangers, safari guides, and photographers would have also mentioned this "story", and taken many pictures and videos of this alleged "coalition", but no one did. It's clearly fake.


The video has no shred of evidence (pictures & footage) of this fantasy coalition of male tigers. Be careful with YouTube videos, a lot of channels post and spread outright fake, completely made-up stories/accounts, deliberate lies and misinformation.
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(09-30-2024, 05:21 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:
(09-27-2024, 04:52 PM)Spalea Wrote: I don't know where to put exactly this short video showing a tiger's  unusual behaviour: three adult huge males tiger being associated as a gang, exactly as the lions do. Here these three males are now ruling over the Bandhavgarh Park, and this gang would pose a threat on the local leopards and seemingly other predators smaller than a tiger. I have read an account about a tiger in Siberia which, after having been hurt by a poacher, searched for this man to kill him properly and radically. Instinct of vengeance ? But I want to put this video because in this forum it is often said that tigers are able to change their behaviour in order to adapt oneself inside a perpetual moving environment like nowaday (where the wild life desappear very fastly because of the numerous human depredations over wild nature)...
Perhaps this video is a pure fantasy, probably but, I don't know, I'm not a specialist about the tiger's life, perhaps "intentions" were given to them (anthropomorphism).








" A Tiger Coalition TERRORIZES India's Wildlife.
In the dense and enigmatic forests of Bandhavgarh, India, one of the most untamed and isolated places on Earth, a distinct sound reverberates through the tree canopy—a powerful roar, the call of a predator at the peak of its strength: the call of the tiger.

We know that tigers are solitary animals, but when three of these striped giants join forces, something rare and truly dangerous happens—a coalition of strength and destruction. But this isn't a group of lions, it's tigers. And naturally, since this is far from ordinary, the balance has been disrupted. Leopards, masters of stealth, have always known how to navigate the depths of this jungle, avoiding direct confrontations with the apex predator. But now, something has changed. After all, these three super predators together are an unprecedented threat. This occurred in the Bandhavgarh Tiger Reserve in India and almost caused the region to fall in 2023.
"

This story is pure fantasy. If true, this story would defy the nature of the solitary tiger. And if true, this story would have been very well known and widely reported in numerous Indian media outlets/news reports. Indian wildlife naturalists, rangers, safari guides, and photographers would have also mentioned this "story", and taken many pictures and videos of this alleged "coalition", but no one did. It's clearly fake.


The video has no shred of evidence (pictures & footage) of this fantasy coalition of male tigers. Be careful with YouTube videos, a lot of channels post and spread outright fake, completely made-up stories/accounts, deliberate lies and misinformation.

Yes, agree with you. I always have this picture in mind about an adult tiger roaming in its jungle: an eternally lone predator whose the walking is constantly betrayed by plenty small apes and birds' screams. It's almost a tragic Shakespearean picture ! 

So, under these conditions, how can we imagine three adult male tigers hunting together ?
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@WildWarlord Please, do not make posts asking other members to go to another site. If you wish to ask another member to speak with you somewhere else, do so through PMs. Though, I do agree, entirely with your comments about @Apex Titan, he is very knowledgeable, and helpful. Thank you!
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(10-06-2024, 05:02 AM)BA0701 Wrote: @WildWarlord Please, do not make posts asking other members to go to another site. If you wish to ask another member to speak with you somewhere else, do so through PMs. Though, I do agree, entirely with your comments about @Apex Titan, he is very knowledgeable, and helpful. Thank you!

I apologize for this mistake. I tried to PM Apex Titan but it does'nt allow me to do that. Thank You!
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(10-06-2024, 05:02 AM)BA0701 Wrote: @WildWarlord Please, do not make posts asking other members to go to another site. If you wish to ask another member to speak with you somewhere else, do so through PMs. Though, I do agree, entirely with your comments about @Apex Titan, he is very knowledgeable, and helpful. Thank you!

I appreciate the compliment. Thanks!
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(10-06-2024, 05:02 AM)BA0701 Wrote: @WildWarlord Please, do not make posts asking other members to go to another site. If you wish to ask another member to speak with you somewhere else, do so through PMs. Though, I do agree, entirely with your comments about @Apex Titan, he is very knowledgeable, and helpful. Thank you!

I apologize for this mistake. I tried to PM Apex Titan but it does'nt allow me to do that. Thank You!

Ah, yes, my friend, I am sorry, I just realized you have a brand new account, that was my mistake. Once your posts are able to be made without approval, which should be any day now, then you will be able to use PMs. Apologies for my mistake. Welcome to WildFact, and do, please, enjoy your time here. Given the content of your first couple of posts, we very much look forward to your contributions.

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An adult gharial crocodile was killed by a tiger in Chitwan:


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https://kathmandupost.com/province-no-3/...in-chitwan
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