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The Sundarban Tiger

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Since the Sunderbans is such a magnificent place and the tigers there are so unique, I figured that I would start a thread on them and if you'd like to post any other cool images of flora or fauna, feel free.

Tigress with cubs from the Mangroves......
Sundarban Tiger Reserve
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The Ruler of Sunderban.

The sighting of this male was a well crafted drama.We knew he was at Dobanki.We saw fresh pug marks all around the island.He crossed the river during the daytime.Two boats saw him crossing.We missed that opportunity by just 1 minute.Then we thought that he will come to the waterhole,where the forest department provides sweet water.Chital calls were all around.He was on the move.But he did not came.We left the watchtower,and was on the journey back to Jhorkhali,where we were to spend the night.Just after leaving the watchtower,we saw fresh pug marks on the mudflat.He had just crossed!We decided to put a round around Dobanki Island.And suddenly our boatman shouted in excitement "Sir,Baagh,Sir Baagh"(Sir,Tiger,Sir ,Tiger).And we saw him.Walking through the thick mangrove near the banks.....it was just like a dream.And then suddenly he stopped,put his majestic face out of the forest,gazed directly at us.The late evening light was not good at all for photography,and I had to push my camera to ISO 6400 to get a decent shutterspeed of 1/120s,at wide open.
A very common belief is that the swamp tigers are relatively small in size,but this guy will ensure that the swamp tigers are no small business.

Sunderban Tiger Reserve , Oct 2015.
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The Mangrove King
08 October, 2015, Sudhanyakhali Watch Tower, Sunderban Tiger Reserve, West Bengal, India
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am I right in saying these are some of the smallest tigers in India?
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Correct,  sumatran are the smallest tigers alive today though.
Sunderbans are also believed to be many of the tigers imported to the Animal Trainers and circus performers as well. I have read quite a bit on Tigers being taken from "Bengal" and that is where the sunderbans are.
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I have also seen a doc on them being maneaters but I'm not sure when it was made, do you know if it's still going on?
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Bengal Tiger in the Sundarbans – photo credit Manoj Kerai


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Oh yes, its a major problem there. The fisherman were wearing masks on the back of their head because the tigers would ambush them, and this worked for some time until it didn't.
The tigers are also known to take them directly from the boat as well.
Some people say the brackish water and sediment that the tigers drink from cause an unusual aggression towards humans. Since they have no real fresh water ponds to drink from, the tides rise and lower so they may have different bacteria in them. 
A couple other reasons that could be a cause to the amount of attacks on humans

"Tiger attacks in the Sundarbans, in India and Bangladesh are estimated to kill from 0-50 (mean of 22.7 between 1947 and 1983) people per year.[1] The Sundarbans is home to over 100 [2] Bengal tigers,[3] one of the largest single populations of tigers in one area. Before modern times, Sundarbans were said to "regularly kill fifty or sixty people a year".[4]"



"Although attacks were stalled temporarily in 2004 with new precautions, recently attacks have been on the rise. This is particularly due to the devastation on the Bangladeshi side of the swamp caused by Cyclone Sidr which has deprived tigers of traditional food sources (due to the natural upheaval) and has pushed them over towards the more populated Indian side of the swamp.[5]"




Precautions
"The locals and government officials take certain precautions to prevent attacks. Local fishermen will say prayers and perform rituals to the forest goddess, Bonbibi, before setting out on expeditions. Invocations to the tiger god Dakshin Rai are also considered a necessity by the local populace for safe passage throughout the Sundarbans area. Fishermen and bushmen originally created masks made to look like faces to wear on the back of their heads because tigers always attack from behind. This worked for a short time, but the tigers quickly realized it was a hoax, and the attacks continued.[citation needed] Government officials wear stiff pads that rise up the back of the neck, similar to the pads of an American football player. This is to prevent the tigers from biting into the spine, which is their favored attack method.[6]"
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A radio-collared tiger rests by a river in the Sundarbans. (Photo: Deshakalyan Chowdhury/AFP/Getty Images)


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Face to face with a man-eating tiger


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Five hundred Bengal tigers live in the largest mangrove forest on earth, situated on the border of India and Bangladesh. But so do more than a million humans. Every year the tigers attack up to 60 people, and only half survive to tell the tale.
Nothing strikes more fear into the hearts and minds of the people of the Sundarbans - the vast river delta on the northern shore of the Bay of Bengal - than the word "tiger". Even the mention of this word can send villagers into a blind panic.
Eager to catch a glimpse of a tiger, I asked a passing fisherman if he had seen one on his travels that morning. Up to that point he had been happy to pass time with me - but immediately he packed up his crabs and left without a word.
"If you talk about the tiger, it will come," said my boatman. "That is why."
There is hardly a person here whose life hasn't been touched by a tiger in some way.


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Some areas are more prone to attacks than others. Between 2006 and 2008 several people were killed in Joymoni, a small village on the banks of the Pashur river, bordering the forest. In one of the attacks, a tiger burst through the bamboo walls of a hut in the middle of the night, and snatched an 83-year-old woman. Her son, Krisnopodo Mondol, who was in his late 60s at the time, heard her screams. 

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"I opened the door and ran to my mother's bed. But my mother was not there," he says. "All I saw was the empty bed. I couldn't find her anywhere. I opened the door to the veranda and in the moonlight I saw my mother. She was badly injured, lying on the ground, her clothes strewn around her."
Tears stream down Krisnopodo's face. At one point he is so overcome with grief, he can't talk. He fetches a picture of his mother from the wall and looks at it with disbelief. Then he continues.
"The tiger attacked my mother in the left side of her head. Her skull was broken. She was still breathing but senseless." Before long, she died.
"On my deathbed, I'll still remember my mother that night," Krisnopodo says. "When I recall that accident, I cannot hold back my tears. I can still hear that sad scream."

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Shortly after the attack, Krisnopodo and his wife moved to a concrete house a short distance away from Joymoni, where he now makes a living by drying coconut in his garden, fenced off from the world.
Most people in the Sundarbans rely on the forest and the river for food and earn money by collecting wild honey and fishing. Although it's illegal, many go into protected areas - the Sundarbans is a Unesco World Heritage site - to cut firewood and poach animals, and it's this that brings them into direct conflict with the tiger. This summer two people were killed in separate incidents while fishing for crabs.
In 1997, Jamal Mohumad went into the forest to hunt and fish for food - and found himself in competition with a bigger and more ferocious hunter.

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"The tiger lunged at me with its paws. It dug its claws into my legs and dragged me under the water. I struggled under the water and dived down about 10 feet under the water. The tiger let go of me. I swam deep under water as fast as I could. After a while, when I reached the surface of the water, I couldn't see the tiger. I swam down the river for a bit and saw a boat and cried out for help."
Jamal is a local legend in the Sundarbans. He's the only person anyone knows who's survived three separate tiger attacks.
In the most recent, in 2007, he'd gone to the forest looking for firewood, when, in the tall grass by the side of the river, he spotted a tiger lying in sun.
"The tiger was on the north side of the river and I was on the south side. I couldn't run. I knew if the tiger saw me he would attack so I said a prayer."
The tiger stalked Jamal. Frozen, Jamal stood his ground. He knew that if he turned to run he would be done for.
"Because I had been attacked twice before I was more conscious about what to do. So I stood in front of the tiger and made mad faces at it and lots of noise.
"The tiger also fears humans, you know. Both can attack each other and it is dangerous for both parties."
The tiger came to within a metre of where Jamal was standing and let out a huge roar. Jamal roared back.


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"I roared and roared at the tiger and made the scariest faces I could. It went on for about half an hour until my throat was bleeding."
Jamal's wife heard the noise and fetched a crowd from the village.
"They made so much noise, they scared the tiger off. When I saw my friends from the village, I collapsed."
Unlike many villagers who've been attacked, Jamal still goes to the forest - but he is more cautious now.
"I always see the tiger in my dreams and when I go into the forest there is a deep fear within me that the tiger is watching me and might attack me again. But I have to go to the forest to ensure foods for my children. It's only for them that I have to face the tiger again and again."

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The tigers in the Sundarbans appear to be more aggressive than those in other parts of the world. It is not fully understood why this should be - some suggest it might be the high salinity of the water.
But the most likely cause is depletion of their natural habitat and a shortage of prey. With a million people living on the fringes of the mangrove forest, food scarcity is a problem for humans and tigers alike, with each poaching the other's prey.
In one village studied by conservationists, tigers were found to kill about 80 domestic animals a year - dogs, goats, buffalo and cows. As a result, villagers carried out several attacks on tigers in retribution. To stop this, in 2008 local conservation groups rolled out 49 Tiger Village response teams.
Each team of volunteers is responsible for dealing with tigers that stray into villages. Rather than kill the animal, villagers scare it back into the forest by brandishing flaming torches and setting off firecrackers. If this fails they have a number to call to get a swat team on the ground with a tranquilliser to sedate the tiger so that it can be taken back to the forest.

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Nonetheless, retaliatory attacks still happen. In December 2013 a group of villagers living near Ghagra Mari forest station tracked down a tiger and killed it after it had attacked and killed a human.
The idea that tigers might one day become extinct is hard for local people to grasp. A fisherman, Deban Mandal, looks at me suspiciously when I put this to him. "How could such a fierce animal possibly be at risk of dying out?" he asks.
Have I not heard the beating heart of a tiger? I confess I have not. He throws back his head and laughs. "I have heard a tiger's heart, and it's stronger than mine."
Deban was on his way to the Kultoli Khal area of the Sundarbans to fish. The fishermen pulled their boat to the shore shortly before dawn.

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The tide was low and they made their way into one of the many muddy rivulets that lead into the forest. Everything was completely silent. Just the sound of their footsteps among the mangrove roots.

Quote:I have heard a tiger's heart, and it's stronger than mineDeban Mondol, Tiger attack survivor
Deban went down to the edge of the rivulet and said a prayer. It was just after sunrise and the mist was rising off the still water. Stepping forward into the silky mud he laid down his net. At that moment, from out of nowhere, a tiger flew at him.
"Its roar was so loud it was like a thunder to me," he says, imitating the sound of the animal.
"I was completely helpless. With the weight of the tiger, I thought I would fall, so I grabbed hold of his torso and laid my head against his chest. I could hear the tiger's heart thumping so fast. I just clung on with my ear to its chest. I could feel its breath on my head, as it tried to attack me."

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He looks at me, his eyes wide as he recounts the event.
"I thought if I could keep holding on, it would not be able to bite me. But it thrashed from side to side and eventually I toppled over and it bit me here on my neck. I was sure I would not live any more."
One of the fishermen climbed up a tree, but another came to Deban's rescue.
"One of the guys came up with an axe or something long, maybe a piece of wood, and hit its head. When it was hit, the tiger released me and ran away."

Quote:The tiger is ferocious - he eats people for his lunchSukumar Mondol, Tiger attack survivor
He shows me the scars on his neck - I can see clear puncture marks.
"When I see a tiger now, I'm filled with fear. When our boss asks us to visit the other side of the river, I tell him if the tiger sees me, it will certainly catch me. He tells me: 'Why would it catch you?' I tell him it secretly watches me from the jungle, I know if I go, it will find me."
Another villager, Sukumar Mondol, suffered far more serious physical injuries. His face is lopsided, he can no longer see or hear clearly and speaks with a lisp.
"I was sitting down on the bank of the river when I heard the tiger roar." he says. "Within a minute, it was on me. He attacked me over and over with his paws. My hand was completely dislocated." He shows me his hand, which has long white lines, where the scarred skin dimples his palm.
"The tiger was biting my head. I felt I was dying. I thought there was no way I could survive the attack. Nobody could save me." The tiger was nine feet long not counting the tail, he says.
"Then a woman came to rescue me and saved my life. She hit the tiger with a stick once with her full strength," he says. They covered Sukumar's wounds with a towel and took him by boat to Chalna, 10km (six miles) away, from where he travelled another 50km (31 miles) to hospital in Khulna.


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Sukumar is lucky to be alive. He spent several weeks in hospital and can no longer work.

"From 27 July, 2011, I have not been back to the forest. The tiger is ferocious. He eats people for his lunch. We live in his territory. It is his area. By the help of God I survived the attack. By his blessing I am alive."

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3 theories of why the tigers in the Sundarbans kill so many people. None are confirmed, as yet.
  • Theory 1: Loss of Territorial Markers 
    • Tigers spray specific trees with their urine. This scent mark is a message for other tigers. For female tigers it can be an advert to a prospective mate that she is willing to mate, or that she isn’t. It can also be a message to another female and between rival males it can mean this is my home so stay out! Unlike in other parts of India these marking trees of the Sundarbans are regularly submerged by the rising tides. (Watch the timelapse video will show how the tide changes affect the mangroves.) One theory is that with tiger’s territorial markers being washed away tigers have to completely dominate their patch, aggressively attacking any potential threat — including people. 
  • Theory 2: Lack of Hunting Pressure 
    • During the British colonial rule of India and Nepal thousands of tigers were killed when rich British and India aristocracy went on hunting trips. As many as 100 tigers were killed on single trips. However unlike some of India’s biggest national parks there was relatively less hunting of tigers at the turn of the century in the Sundarbans. In places like the Russian Far East and India where the tigers were heavily hunted it is possible that those that have survived are the ones that have a natural fear of people. However, in the Sundarbans the tigers have not been conditioned to fear humans. So perhaps man-eating is just their natural state.
  • Theory 3: A Taste for Human Flesh
    • Bangladesh regularly suffers devastating cyclones and savage storms in the Bay of Bengal. Over the years, many bodies have been washed up in the Sundarbans forests. Tigers are scavengers too, and they may have developed a taste for human flesh after feeding on corpses. They then pass on the behavior of hunting humans to their young. This may seem far fetched but the same phenomenon was documented in Vietnam after the war and also with wolves in Poland after World War II.
http://www.pbs.org/earth-a-new-wild/epis...ers-earth/
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@Pckts wow, that is so much worse than I thought! When I saw 27 kills I instantly though between that whole time period, but per year...now that is a a major threat. It also seems to me that the smaller tigers are the most aggressive, sumatrans being another example.
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@svtigris
Absolutely, I read quite often about sumatrans aggression and that seems to be unsurpassed in any tiger sub species. I also read that Malaysian's were quite aggressive as well.
It seems as though the smaller the tiger, the more aggressive it becomes.

But none are as notorious for killing humans as sunderbans. But that could have more to do with their habitat and how villager and tiger must live side by side in close quarters in a terrain unseen anywhere else.
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Found a bit of in depth info

http://www.teriuniversity.ac.in/mct/pdf/...ALLICK.pdf
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Very interesting read.
I never put much stock in the high salinity theory, but it definitely appears that it plays a major factor in human-tiger conflict.

Also interesting that the densest vegetation area also contributed to high human-tiger conflict.

and lastly, no surprise, the highest human density contributed to a higher death toll.

Since the education of people, netting put up and realistic studies on the trouble areas, the deaths and injuries have gone down since the 2000s.
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(12-16-2015, 03:11 AM)Pckts Wrote: Very interesting read.
I never put much stock in the high salinity theory, but it definitely appears that it plays a major factor in human-tiger conflict.

Also interesting that the densest vegetation area also contributed to high human-tiger conflict.

and lastly, no surprise, the highest human density contributed to a higher death toll.

Since the education of people, netting put up and realistic studies on the trouble areas, the deaths and injuries have gone down since the 2000s.

Yep, it has unsurprisingly been a pattern in all the studies I read, once awareness reaches a high level, the problem becomes less severe, an example being the snow leopard conservation plan I posted on my snow leopard thread. One which I advise reading btw (#nopromo)
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I will definitely get started on that snow leopard report, 143 pages or so, may take me a few days but I will read it.


Isn't it crazy that even though Sunderban Tiger numbers have increased, human fatalities from them have decreased.
Amazing how that works, a little research and knowledge, protection of their land and prey animals and nature seems to take care of the rest.
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