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The Matimba coalition

Argentina Tshokwane Offline
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We had a rare visit from a Matimba male Lion, in the company of the skittish KNP pride that we’ve been seeing in the north of the reserve. They have been spending most of their time in the north-western part of the reserve, around GPS loop and Civet road. The pride consists of two adult females, and two sub-adults, one male and one female. They are nice and relaxed with the vehicle, when the Males are with them, but a bit edgy when unaccompanied by the big guys. Its an interesting piece of the puzzle, regarding how many prides the Matimbas have sired cubs with. It seems that the Matimbas, have had an even greater impact on the local Lion population, than we once thought, and have done very well to spread their genetics in the area.
Northern Matimba.

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It's great to have updates of these boys that seem to be even more successful than their southern brothers. And clearly, in the pics you can see the resemblance between both sets of males. Great coalition.
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welcome to the forum @Shaudimela
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11 February 2016 on the Orpen Road (stretch between Orpen gates)

Lone male.

One of the Northern Matimba males.

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Taken from Londozi Blog... 
I think he's Belly Hair

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One thing is for certain, when we say we will get you close to the game, we mean close! This male we saw this morning was just meters away from two lionesses, one of which had two cubs of only a week old that we were fortunate to see. Londolozi Private Game Reserve, South Africa.
Belly Hair

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how many Matimba males there are?
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( This post was last modified: 02-18-2016, 12:37 AM by Shaudimela )

Hello @LionKiss

There are 5 matimbas

2 Of them in Londozi ( Belly Hair and Ginger)
3 of them in Manyeleti.... I dont know their name.

Maybe @Majingilane or @sanjay know more about them...
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India sanjay Offline
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I have heard about the 3 Matimba males, But at the time I can not recall their names
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did they split some time and now there are two different coalitions?
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Quote:did they split some time and now there are two different coalitions?

Yes, it seems so, just like the Mapogos did in their day.
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From the Londolozi Blog:

A Close Call for the Matimba Coalition

The ever-changing lion dynamics within the Sabi Sands continues to intrigue. Now, however, potential changes and unseen events have furthered that intrigue and interest into mystery and unanswered questions. The Matimba coalition of two have undergone unexplained movements lately and may therefore be at a tipping point. Will they continue to dominate central Londolozi or crumble under surrounding pressures?


As has been the unorthodox “normal” since late 2015 the two Matimba males have secured the central region of Londolozi, a relatively small territory, but interacting with both the Tsalala and Mhangeni prides nonetheless. Since the stand-off and reciprocal chasing between them and three of the Majingilane males in late December the anticipated attack and/or retaliation never materialised. But there could be a new threat to their east which they had not been prepared for.

Throughout the majority of their tenure on Londolozi the Matimba males have remained within close proximity to one another; a smart move at the start of a reign. Even while one male has been mating with a lioness (often an extended period of time) the other male placed himself within earshot of the temporary pair, highlighting the tight bond shared between the two males. With Majingilane presence to their west the outnumbered Matimba males need to be ready at all times. Despite their diligence, it seems the coalition has been caught off guard from unknown pressures in the opposite direction.

Two weeks ago the two Matimba males were seen patrolling central Londolozi and the southern bank of the Sand River, with no sign of Majingilane roars to their west. That night, however, the keen and experienced ears of tracker, Judas Ngomane caught what he was sure were the distant sounds of fighting lions further downstream. Nothing could be found the following morning and theories developed. That was February 8th, and only a few days went by before the dark-maned Matimba male was found much further into the northern section of Londolozi, unscathed. His beautifully long and extensive mane and dark coat was in as good condition as always, but there was no sign of the other male. Our search continued for twelve more days, with the dark-maned male returning to his usual movements around central Londolozi, including joining up with a portion of the Tsalala pride for a few days and sharing in their Kudu carcass, with solitary, intermittent calling during night time. The theories regarding the missing male continued to grow.

It was only two days ago, February 20th, that he emerged. That morning, the dark-maned male had been left resting nearby to two Tsalala lionesses in the Manyalethi riverbed but was not present in the afternoon. Determined trackers managed to find him at sunset closer to the Sand River, to where he had followed the quiet contact calls of the missing male and the two lay close together at night fell; later their combined roars could be heard from camp during dinner. Rangers and Trackers alike were surprised to hear of his return and the coalition’s reunion, but the separation never came without a price.


Signs of a near fatal conflict are evident and it seems the male is extremely lucky to not only have survived the attack but to have remained alive since. He may have cheated death even further by escaping any long-term injury, particularly spinal damage, and thus managed to make his way back towards central Londolozi and find his brother. Despite looking thin and badly hurt, he sports only superficial injuries with the exception of a typical “kill bite” (seen in male lion conflicts) around the lower back; it is still unclear whether the spine is only swollen or internal damage has occurred. The latter now seems less likely as yesterday the two males covered an impressive distance upstream to join a single Mhangeni lioness on a buffalo carcass, chasing away the younger sub-adult of that pride. With a full stomach the injured Matimba male has a much greater chance of recovery, and with the other male by his side he may crawl out of the proverbial grave.

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As those deathly sounds two weeks ago were heard in the distance to the east and echoing from the Sand River, the interaction went unseen and subsequent viewing of the area was impossible. As such, it is not known who (or how many) inflicted the damage to the powerful male or where the other Matimba male was at the time. As we have seen, the two are aware of Majingilane pressure to their west and may only have stood down to their challenge eight weeks ago as they were outnumbered by one. This happened far away from any Majingilane presence, though.


The young but already infamous Birmingham males from the northern Sabi Sands have occasionally ventured down into north-eastern Londolozi, several strong. The two fierce Matshipiri males spend most of their time much further south with the remaining Sparta pride lionesses. There is a single unknown male whose fairly nomadic nature causes him to temporarily appear amongst all of this chaos, but him alone could not have done enough damage to the strong Matimba male. Perhaps two or three of the Birmingham males had caught him off guard as they explored closer to Londolozi while the dark-maned male was out of sight. If this is the case, leaving their victim injured but still alive may have been a mistake.

As we have seen with many lions in nature, flesh wounds which are consistently licked and groomed have an impressive likelihood of healing. Lions seem to beat the odds against septicemia and make full recoveries from most wounds, but face danger from internal injuries and spinal damage. The next few weeks will reveal the extent of his injuries, but for now the coalition has reunited and is partaking in a crucial feed. Will one male’s fight for life secure the Matimba presence and prepare them for further expansion? The resilience of these big cats continues to astonish.

I just saw this and I have to say, Ginger is a lucky lion to have escaped alive. Great article.
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I agree I just read this is big wonder who it was and I didn't realize he was missing for 12 days
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( This post was last modified: 02-22-2016, 11:42 PM by LionKiss )

the fight could have been with the Blondie of the BBoys who appears to be limping in a recent video where the BBoys were eating a hippo.
of course Blondie alone could not cause injuries of that magnitude to this Matimba, he would need the help of his brother at least an other one, so if some one checks the other BBoys and notice scars etc could be more likely that they fought with this Matimba.
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BB vrs Matimbas? Well All BB can win ...
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( This post was last modified: 02-23-2016, 06:54 PM by Shaudimela )

@LionKiss I read this post from Matshipiri Facebook

"Not that has been reported, They dont have to have injuries because if it was them in a 2vs1 fight if they where lucky they possibly only got smaller scratches.
Its only speculations but everything point at the matshapiri males.
And yes the matimba male is lucky to be alive."
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