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Man of the forests... Borneo.

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I quote:

" The gentle giants of the Virunga. One of the most commonly asked questions that I receive from people is, “what are the gorillas like?” To this my answer is and always will be the same. The gorillas are all the good that we wish to see in another person ! "

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Female mountain gorilla submits to a massive silverback.

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Nice image of a Grauer's gorilla in Kahuzi-Biega National Park, Eastern DRC.

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(09-28-2019, 12:57 PM)The Panther Wrote: Female mountain gorilla submits to a massive silverback.

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That's a massive male
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(09-28-2019, 10:46 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(09-28-2019, 12:57 PM)The Panther Wrote: Female mountain gorilla submits to a massive silverback.

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That's a massive male

Yes, it's almost scary to look at sometimes, he's just such a massive male.
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At a water point...

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(04-22-2014, 12:42 PM)GuateGojira Wrote: The record Guinness
Here are the full pages about the gorilla in the great book of animal records of Gerald Wood (1978):

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Pages 55 and 58 are just photograps of other animals. Enjoy the reading. [img]images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]
 

Regarding the largest wild silverback, the weight of the Ambam specimen from Cameroon which is 574-588 lbs (which is widely regarded as the world record heaviest silverback, you can see it was quoted in Wikipedia article about gorilla) is nothing more than guess-timation. They'd never measured the real weight of the silverback manually so the real weight is unknown.
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(09-30-2019, 05:53 PM)johnny rex Wrote: Regarding the largest wild silverback, the weight of the Ambam specimen from Cameroon which is 574-588 lbs (which is widely regarded as the world record heaviest silverback, you can see it was quoted in Wikipedia article about gorilla) is nothing more than guess-timation. They'd never measured the real weight of the silverback manually so the real weight is unknown.

Good to know that, I think that the maximum weight for a gorilla, reliable recorded, is about 220 kg. I had the full list of all the maximim weights of gorillas, but I lost it. Disappointed
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DO GORILLAS FIGHT FREQUENTLY?



Because of their sharp canines and great strength, gorilla males are very dangerous opponents when they are in a fighting mood. Therefore, most differences of opinion are not resolved by fighting, but by displaying and other threat behaviour patterns, without anyone getting injured. Gorillas are famous for their display behaviour culminating in the chest beating and loud hooting. The chestbeat sounds especially impressive in silverback males.



Severe aggression is rare in stable gorilla groups, but when two groups meet, the leading silverbacks can sometimes engage in a fight to the death, mainly using their sharp canines to cause deep, gaping injuries.


www.berggorilla.org/en/gorillas/general/social-life/do-gorillas-fight-frequently/
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(09-30-2019, 07:01 PM)GuateGojira Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 05:53 PM)johnny rex Wrote: Regarding the largest wild silverback, the weight of the Ambam specimen from Cameroon which is 574-588 lbs (which is widely regarded as the world record heaviest silverback, you can see it was quoted in Wikipedia article about gorilla) is nothing more than guess-timation. They'd never measured the real weight of the silverback manually so the real weight is unknown.

Good to know that, I think that the maximum weight for a gorilla, reliable recorded, is about 220 kg. I had the full list of all the maximim weights of gorillas, but I lost it. Disappointed

But do you really think that's the heaviest they get? Because I find it hard to believe males like Guhonda weigh about or less than 220 kg, and this is coming from someone who hates big estimations without good comparisons. Old males like Guhonda seem to match some of the heaviest captive gorillas in size, albeit more muscular and healthier. I just feel like there isn't enough evidence on their size to determine if that's the heaviest they can attain or not, plus it would be unrealistic if that's all they could reach in the wild to be honest, wouldn't you agree? 

Please don't get me wrong, I understand that may be the biggest on record, but is it really the biggest they can get to?
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(09-30-2019, 09:20 PM)GreenGrolar Wrote: DO GORILLAS FIGHT FREQUENTLY?



Because of their sharp canines and great strength, gorilla males are very dangerous opponents when they are in a fighting mood. Therefore, most differences of opinion are not resolved by fighting, but by displaying and other threat behaviour patterns, without anyone getting injured. Gorillas are famous for their display behaviour culminating in the chest beating and loud hooting. The chestbeat sounds especially impressive in silverback males.



Severe aggression is rare in stable gorilla groups, but when two groups meet, the leading silverbacks can sometimes engage in a fight to the death, mainly using their sharp canines to cause deep, gaping injuries.


www.berggorilla.org/en/gorillas/general/social-life/do-gorillas-fight-frequently/

I moved this posting from Gorilla strength thread, because this is about behavior of gorillas, not about how strong they are or might be.
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(09-30-2019, 09:37 PM)The Panther Wrote: But do you really think that's the heaviest they get? Because I find it hard to believe males like Guhonda weigh about or less than 220 kg, and this is coming from someone who hates big estimations without good comparisons. Old males like Guhonda seem to match some of the heaviest captive gorillas in size, albeit more muscular and healthier. I just feel like there isn't enough evidence on their size to determine if that's the heaviest they can attain or not, plus it would be unrealistic if that's all they could reach in the wild to be honest, wouldn't you agree? 

Please don't get me wrong, I understand that may be the biggest on record, but is it really the biggest they can get to?

You have a good point, the sample size of gorillas hunte/captured in the wild is very small, compared with other animals. So that may influence the posible specimens that we may found.

For all the studies that I could found previously, I remember that the heaviest male reliable recorded was one of 219 kg (Schaller, 1964), but there is other modern record of 220 kg (Briggs, 2018).

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So, there is the posibility of heavier males, but for the moment, and based in the few samples available, those are the biggest ones.

By the way, here are some measurements that may interest you.

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