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The Charleston Males and Their Male Lineage

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Big Boy on patrol.

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Throwback Thursday- Charleston male Mazino
Famous Charleston’s the most aggressive fierce duo.

Brother to Charleston Big Boy this guys face is like no other . Passed away last year but not forgotten.
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The impressive Big Boy #Charleston, near the #Phabeni Gate after hunting a zebra #krugerNationalPark
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(03-13-2020, 12:57 AM)titose Wrote: The impressive Big Boy #Charleston, near the #Phabeni Gate after hunting a zebra #krugerNationalPark
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Coalition of Southern and Talamati boys might be threat for Big Boy in future, they are hanging around his territory.  Hope he can defend his pride for another year or two and give his subadults and cubs chance to grown up.
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(03-13-2020, 02:42 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(03-13-2020, 12:57 AM)titose Wrote: The impressive Big Boy #Charleston, near the #Phabeni Gate after hunting a zebra #krugerNationalPark
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Coalition of Southern and Talamati boys might be threat for Big Boy in future, they are hanging around his territory.  Hope he can defend his pride for another year or two and give his subadults and cubs chance to grown up.

If only his brother was alive! Together they brutalized so many young coalitions that passed through their territory and separated them from each other. He might have the experience to keep them at bay for another year.
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(03-13-2020, 02:42 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(03-13-2020, 12:57 AM)titose Wrote: The impressive Big Boy #Charleston, near the #Phabeni Gate after hunting a zebra #krugerNationalPark
By: Arina

Coalition of Southern and Talamati boys might be threat for Big Boy in future, they are hanging around his territory.  Hope he can defend his pride for another year or two and give his subadults and cubs chance to grown up.

The coalition of boys from the south and from Talamati is looking more and more confident, I also hope it can last at least one more year, it all depends on how ambitious these boys are
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(03-13-2020, 02:59 AM)titose Wrote:
(03-13-2020, 02:42 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(03-13-2020, 12:57 AM)titose Wrote: The impressive Big Boy #Charleston, near the #Phabeni Gate after hunting a zebra #krugerNationalPark
By: Arina

Coalition of Southern and Talamati boys might be threat for Big Boy in future, they are hanging around his territory.  Hope he can defend his pride for another year or two and give his subadults and cubs chance to grown up.

The coalition of boys from the south and from Talamati is looking more and more confident, I also hope it can last at least one more year, it all depends on how ambitious these boys are

How many in the coalition?
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(03-13-2020, 03:14 AM)Matimbalani Wrote:
(03-13-2020, 02:59 AM)titose Wrote:
(03-13-2020, 02:42 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(03-13-2020, 12:57 AM)titose Wrote: The impressive Big Boy #Charleston, near the #Phabeni Gate after hunting a zebra #krugerNationalPark
By: Arina

Coalition of Southern and Talamati boys might be threat for Big Boy in future, they are hanging around his territory.  Hope he can defend his pride for another year or two and give his subadults and cubs chance to grown up.

The coalition of boys from the south and from Talamati is looking more and more confident, I also hope it can last at least one more year, it all depends on how ambitious these boys are

How many in the coalition?

It's three males, but they're growing very fast and every day they're going to feel more confident
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Charlestons took over in the beggining of 2017 so their subadults should be around 2-2,5 years old. They rather do not need much more time. Perhaps they could survive on their own even if takeover happens now.
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(03-13-2020, 08:06 PM)Potato Wrote: Charlestons took over in the beggining of 2017 so their subadults should be around 2-2,5 years old. They rather do not need much more time. Perhaps they could survive on their own even if takeover happens now.

Yes, looking by the size of this young male, they are around 2 , still too young to survive on their own tho. 


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But this is just a speculation, we dont know if those young males are threat to him, atm they hang out near his territory, they might move off or find a different pride.
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https://www.sundestinations.co.za/blog/portraits-of-the-charleston-male-lions-at-umkumbe/

09/2016

Portraits of the Charleston Male Lions at Umkumbe


There is no denying it, these two male lions have a breathtaking effect on their admirers. Two magnificent lions with an incredible bond, handsome dark manes, and a growing family with the Southern Pride females, with whom they have a number of cubs. Little mention needs to be made of one of the males’ dangling canines: this has been a highlight of the Sabi Sand lions’ fan club for almost a year now! Recently we’ve been lucky enough to admire these bushveld warriors as they relaxed on the Umkumbe Safari Lodge traverse before moving off to meet up with the the Southern Pride.


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The story behind the one Charleston’s tooth began nearly a year ago when he was kicked in the jaw by a giraffe during a hunt (bound to do some serious damage), and a subsequent fight with other lions caused the tooth to become completely dislodged. It looks (and probably was) very uncomfortable, but we have assured concerned followers that he is clearly not showing signs of suffering. In fact, it has been said that he looks stronger and in better condition than his coalition partner! The general thinking is that the tooth will finally become detached during feeding or fighting, but so far it has hung in there. He is instantly recognisable and has become a real sensation since the incident, and many people have been of the opinion that this awkward looking injury and the lack of a fourth canine would hinder his ability to thrive as a dominant male lion in his territory, but as always, nature has proved just how adaptable it is!

Enjoy this gallery of the Umkumbe rangers’ most recent captures of the Charleston males seen during game drive: Portraits of these Sabi Sand lion kings, in all their wild glory!



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A bit more to settle speculations as to who in fact sired Charleston males. Mala Mala raport from August 2011:

http://web.archive.org/web/20170104222824/http://www.malamala.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Game-report-August-2011.pdf

CHARLESTON PRIDE = 7
 1 ADULT FEMALES 15 YEARS
 1 ADULT FEMALES 7 YEARS 2 MONTHS
 1 ADULT FEMALE 6 YEARS 7 MONTHS 
1 SUB ADULT FEMALE 1 YEAR 10 MONTHS 
3 CUBS 4 MONTHS 

SOUTHERN CHARLESTON (3 sightings) After not being seen for many many months, the pride showed themselves again in August. They were found on a large buffalo kill that they reportedly stole from the three sub-adult Eyrefield males. Never the less, the entire pride showed up to feed and we got to see the cubs for the first time. This pride has been taken over by the two Kruger males, who are also the cubs’ fathers. Interesting to note was that the subadult female who is not yet two years old, is still with the pride and has been fully accepted by the two large males. Unlike when the Manyelethi males took over in the north, there was no bloodshed and she has lived a relatively peaceful life so far. The pride fed on the buffalo for two days, and then rested on the eastern bank of Calabash crossing on the third, before moving off MalaMala once again. Hopefully we will get to see more of this pride in the future, as the two males seem keen on moving more into central Charleston.
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A bit on a size of Charleston males from Mala Mala:

July 2012
The first sighting of these lions was along our southern boundary as they had some downtime on Flat Rocks. The second sighting took place on the last day of the month on Sibuye Drive in western Charleston. Only the two young males were viewed, in close proximity to a herd a buffalo. The next day all four members were seen together still in the same area, still within sight of the buffalo. All the members seem to be in good shape, and the young males are growing to the extent that their tracks can be easily mistaken for those of a full-grown adult. 

June 2014
There were six sightings of the Charleston Pride in June. They were seen as far north as the confluence of the Kapen and Sand Rivers. They were seen twice around Sibuye Drive and once in south-west Charleston. The young males are colossal for their age and seem to be always looking well fed. The lioness was reported to be mating last month and we wait to see if anything develops. They have an extensive territory and could be putting pressure on the Tjellahanga Pride to move further north. 

July 2014
There were seven confirmed sightings of the Charleston pride. They were most often seen around Sibuye drive. The pride were also seen on South-Western Charleston where they were seen feeding off a giraffe. One of the males were viewed fighting with a male from a neighbouring property at the giraffe carcass. The young males are massive for their age and always seem to be well fed.
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