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Came across this interesting video. A bear cub probably less than an year old is seen grappling , wrestling and indulging in ground wrestling with two Russian kids. The kid in the blue jacket is an undefeated MMA fighter now.
You can observe how the bear uses various wrestling like moves and holds to control the kid on the ground. Wachout at : 5:36 A butterfly sweep 4:54 Trips the kid over by grappling his leg 2:25 Sprawl.. used in matt wrestling to avoid leg take downs 1:26 Side by sweep 4:08 Takes the boy down using his own weight 3:23 Reverses the boys attempt at a takedown Watch the whole video to see how similar it is to modern day Ground and pound MMA and wrestling. 
Another great video is the two koalas wrestling. You can see them sprawl, hit reversals, attempt arm drags and more.
Even watching gorillas fight will remind you of sumo with all the hand fighting and trying to knock each Other off balance. It makes sense, it's a good way for a bipedal or semi-bipedal creature to test strength without using their jaws or claws. I also see no difference then to now with khabibs game .... A lot of lay and pray 
 (05-07-2016, 08:30 PM)Pradyumna Wrote:(05-07-2016, 06:00 PM)Pckts Wrote: Another great video is the two koalas wrestling. You can see them sprawl, hit reversals, attempt arm drags and more. I've seen many of Khabib's fights, and the last time I saw his record, I think it was a 22-0 wins/losses ratio. This video is most likely where he achieved that great ratio from. Also, I am an active MMA and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu student (of the well-known Winchester Jiu-Jitsu academy) and catch up a lot on MMA ring events, especially those of UFC. I had interest in fighting and watching UFC/WWE ever since I was eight; starting with Taekwondo, then to Aikido, then to both MMA/BJJ while playing on my high school's football team in my Junior year. So far, its been a pretty interesting path of physical training, and I've learned a lot from training. Never have I had to use my training in a serious situation that required physical defense, but it is a good thing to have in the back of my mind. I wouldn't last a chance with any of these well-experience animals fully grown, but animals aren't as skill-lacking as we think they are. Back on CarnivoraForums, posters were talking about how human were the best fighters and could grapple, thrash, choke, punch, throw, and bite unlike other animals. Gorillas can do this too (with a reduction in punching), tigers and other carnivores who use their limbs effectively can throw, choke, thrash, and grapple us way too easily if they tried. We really are not the good fighters as those posters mention. 
Bears are grapplers. If this cub grew up with other cubs to play with, that would explain his moves. Bears are fast learners and begin wrestling at an early age. Their "body-plan" is geared toward wrestling.
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I have been training and fighting most of my life. I started in mma and was recruited to boxing and I agree that we definitely don't possess abilities that certain animals don't possess as well, but what we do possess is technique. Any one who has trained bjj understands the need for practice and an understanding of the way submissions work. Sprawling, tripping or tossing are very instinctive movements and is the reason why you can see many animals doing them. What you won't see is animals applying joint submission locks, and why would you? They don't need to grab and arm or a leg, they need to bite, slash or pound. But that doesn't mean our technique will not work against an animal. You can look up a young kid who saved his dog from a pit bull by putting it in a RNC, so that's our way of adapting to being out gunned. (05-08-2016, 05:07 AM)Pckts Wrote: @@Pckts The problem is that we just can't execute the technique as fast. We don't know the condition of that dog, as it is unstated. Dogs can maneuver their necks in such snappy and clever ways that even a primate with a flexible/strong neck can not comprehend. I had a friend named Price who had trained in Judo/MMA/BJJ/Krav Maga and was a powerlifter, (495-pound Bench, 700-pound Squat, and 675-pound Deadlift at a weight of 288-pounds and a height of 6'6") and he once had his young 90-pound male Kangal fight him; the neck of this dog was way too strong to restrain, and keep in mind, the dog was not trying his maximum effort (my friend said 80% at most since his dog wasn't that particularly angry, just a bit excited to physically test him.) Basically, four things happened: -My friend got his right middle and ring finger halfway bit off from the dog right after the quarrel started (of course, he got the fingers fixed at the local hospital.) -He wasn't able to keep the dog's two main weapons restrained (head and neck), since the dog was a little more "playful" than usual. -He successfully punched the dog in the ribs; however, take note that a punch is much much different from a body slam (since that can actually break the dog's ribs and possibly kill it), and the dog simultaneously bit his wrist as he provided the punch: a dog's neck is just too quick. -He became incredibly frustrated at the dog, and proceeded to try his best at pinning it down; the dog's neck was just too much for him. He tried to mount the canine by sticking his knee at the dog's chest an pulling its neck towards his own chest. The dog was easily able to launch his neck from my friend's grasp. He tried side-mounting the dog with all four of its limbs under his chest and hip; this only resulted in the dog being able to kick his legs out with an insurmountable amount of force and explosively get its neck back out of my friend's tight grasp. Lastly, he tried to rear choke the dog. The dog's loose skin and speedy neck helped it instantly swarm out of my friend's hold and restrained his right arm with a bite. I saw all of this in real-time, first-person view. It amazed me how a young, yet well-bred dog could easily hold its own (with only its jaws) towards an experienced lifter and fighter with usable, strong, and flexible limbs. Peter, on the AvA forum, mentioned how a very fit and trained 200-pound zookeeper was not able to physically restrain a 50-pound leopardess if she went berserk. If most animals of equal weight tried, they would easily be able to bite/slash/pound us explosively (we have a relative lower fast-twitch muscle ratio than most other animals, and carnivores/herbivorous animals usually have much more muscle neurons per muscle length than primates do.) However, at adrenaline rush, I believe a human can take on a 10 to 80-pound domestic pet, a sub-adult wolf, a professional strongman/less-skilled MMA fighter, or maybe even a 20 to 100-pound primate of any kind and at least harm it or make it retreat. Anything else, no way. The maximum we are actually able to lift (as in a 'deadlift' sort of way) during adrenaline rush would be 1500-pounds maximum and our reflexes only increase by 31.8% (I have the study on my Drive from the NRZI-National Russian Zoological Institute, though I have to translate it into English, and the English isn't good itself.) Some of the movements you stated that "seem" natural to untrained humans, are not so natural at my BJJ academy. I see newcomers trying to use only their brute strength simply to pull their arm off an omoplata or arm lock, not really knowing how to sprawl, trip, etc... I guess it depends on the relative person's experience; I am not so good with BJJ as I am at MMA, so I tend to strike more instead of grapple/wrestle. Others might do vice versa, and some others might be on my level of expertise and experience. But most animals are much more better fighters than us, especially pound-for-pound, whether other primates, canines, ursines, felids, bovines, or even robust cervids. A trained and fit 180-pound man, assuming he is behind the deer, can often take a 130-pound deer down by tackling it down, but can he take it while facing its front? That is the question; I assume the man loses at least 9/10 times in that fight. (05-08-2016, 02:18 AM)brotherbear Wrote: Bears are grapplers. If this cub grew up with other cubs to play with, that would explain his moves. Bears are fast learners and begin wrestling at an early age. Their "body-plan" is geared toward wrestling. by Blaire Van Valkenburgh - First posted by grraahh - http://shaggygod.proboards.com/ SPEED AND STRENGTH All bears have a large head with small ears followed by massive shoulders and a short back and | tail, all of which are supported on thick limbs and broad paws. Compared with big cats, bears have longer snouts and shorter, stiffer backs. Relative to large dogs, bears have bulky legs and much more spreading feet. Unlike these other carnivores, and more like humans, bears walk on the soles of their hindfeet, with their ankle joint positioned just above the ground. This condition is called plantigrade, and differs from the digitigrade posture of cats and dogs, in which the “soles” of the feet are elevated, along with the ankle, and only the toes touch the ground. To understand why bears are built so differendy from cats and dogs, it is essential to explain the benefits of digitigrade feet. Running around on your toes in a digitigrade posture is advantageous if speed is important. Speed is the product of stride length and stride frequency. Raising the ankle adds length to the part of the limb that determines stride length, that is from the shoulder or hip to the point of contact with the ground. Longer limbs take bigger strides, and digitigrade posture is therefore typical of mammals designed to run. Digitigrade animals also tend to have relatively long bones, or metapodials, making up the sole of the foot, adding further to total limb length. In addition, their limb muscles are much thicker close to the hip or shoulder joint, and taper towards the toes as long, elastic tendons. This construction reduces muscle mass near the ankles and feet, where the limb travels farthest during locomotion, and thus reduces inertial effects. A The skeletons of a bear and a domestic dog illustrate the difference between plantigrade and digitigrade postures. The dog is digitigrade, standing on its toes with the soles of its feet (metapodials) off the ground. By contrast, the soles of the bear's hindfeet are flat to the ground, as in humans, giving it a plantigrade posture. If one imagines the additional energy required to walk or run with ankle weights or heavy shoes, then the drawbacks of heavy feet become clear. There are yet further benefits to runners in having long tendinous muscle attachments. Tendons are elastic and act as energy-saving springs when running. They are stretched as the limb is flexed under the weight of the animal and then rebound, propelling the body forward and upward. So, digitigrade posture, long metapodials, and compact muscles with stretchy tendons are typical of carnivores built for speed. Bears are clearly not built for speed. Although their forefeet are semi-digitigrade, their hind-feet are plantigrade. Moreover, their metapodials are short and their muscles thick throughout the length of the limb. In many ways, bears are built more like badgers than other similar-sized carnivores, such as tigers, and it shows in their speed. The top speed recorded for both black and brown bears is 50 kilometers (30 miles) per hour, whereas the range for the fully digitigrade lion and wolf is 55 to 65 kilometers (35 to 40 miles) per hour. If bears are not built for speed, then what does the combination of massive limbs, plantigrade hindfeet, cumbersome paws, and a short back provide? Strength and mobility of limb movement are the answers. The stout limbs of bears are capable of producing large forces over a much greater range of motion than those of dogs or even cats. Bears use these capabilities when digging for food or shelter, fishing for salmon, climbing to escape danger, and battling with members of their own species as well as other predators. Imagine a wolf trying to perform a bear hug or climb a tree. Dogs have forfeited these abilities in favor of speed. Cats are more like bears in their range of possible movements, but lack strength. Bears may not be able to outrun danger, but can successfully defend themselves through brute force.
@Polar
"I had a friend named Price who had trained in Judo/MMA/BJJ/Krav Maga and was a powerlifter, (495-pound Bench, 700-pound Squat, and 675-pound Deadlift at a weight of 288-pounds and a height of 6'6") and he once had his young 90-pound male Kangal fight him; the neck of this dog was way too strong to restrain, and keep in mind, the dog was not trying his maximum effort (my friend said 80% at most since his dog wasn't that particularly angry, just a bit excited to physically test him.) Basically, four things happened:" First I have to say that "your friend" is awfully cruel to his dog. He shouldn't be treating an animal like that, besides the point... A man of that size and strength should have no problem choking a kangal or any dog species if he understands how to apply the choke. It's not about strength alone, its about positioning and leverage. A choke isn't simply "squeeze as hard as you can" a choke is about leverage and position, your wrist or forearm (depending on the choke style you prefer) needs be applied directly under the chin or against the adams apple then the technique doesn't stop there, you must then apply pressure from your hips on the lower portion of the body, essentially pushing with your waste and pulling with your arms/back. You can look up the 9 year boy who saved his freinds dog by putting a pit in choke and there is another much sadder one of animal abuse by a couple of guys who video taped themselves choking a huge pit unconscious. HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE... I will not post the link here since I don't want to draw any more attention to it. Here is an old story of a man choking a bear out by using his teeth https://huckberry.com/journal/posts/man-...-and-teeth  *This image is copyright of its original author But as you can see, animals are suseptable to being choked like any other mammal, if blood rushes to your brain, we can stop it. Will it be easy? Will it happen often? NO, but if trained properly, applied correctly and you're incredibly lucky there is no animal with in reason you shouldn't be able to defend against if able to apply a choke. But lets be real, is there any chance of you getting a choke on a big cat, bear or wolf before they rip you up, Not likely. Still can and has happened. But we're talking about a 1% chance
The black grizzly - Ursus arctos lasiotus - Ussuri brown bear - Amur brown bear.
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Russia is blessed with the largest brown bear population in the world. Brown bear is one of the most widespread, well-known and popular animal in Russia. Due to strict enforcement of law bear population in Russia reached approximately 150,000. This number is higher than in the rest of the other countries combined. Bears are distributed throughout Russia unevenly. The European Northwest of Russia, Kamchatka peninsula, Sakhalin island and the coastal regions of the Pacific have the highest population density. Bear is an elusive and aggressive animal. Hunting bears is difficult and hunting methods vary greatly from region to region, depending on the habits of the local animals, food sources and terrain. After much debate and pressure from international hunting community winter den hunts, one of the oldest and most popular ways of hunting bears in Russia was banned in 2012. Now Russian bear hunting season is limited to spring and fall. Unlike in North America, where brown bears seem to prefer open landscapes, in Eurasia they inhabit mostly dense forests. One possible reason for this difference is that the particular population that invaded America thousands of years ago was from low land parts of Chukotka Peninsula of Russia. Five subspecies of brown bear are found throughout Russia. Sergei Shushunov and Russian Hunting LLC offers hunts for all five. KAMCHATKA BROWN BEAR Ursus arctos beringianus (Far Eastern brown bear) DESCRIPTION & TAXONOMY These Giant bears are very similar to Kodiak bears of Alaska, but tend to be darker. Head and body length could be in excess of feet (305 cm), tail length 6-1/2 to 8-1/2 inches (16.5 to 21.6 cm), shoulder height 50-53 inches (127 to 135 cm). As with the Alaska brown bear, the Kamchatka brown bear grows large because of its abundant and protein-rich diet of spawning salmon and other fish in the coastal rivers, and because of comparatively mild climate that permits a shorter period of hibernation. It is a very large, dark bear with a massive skull. The forehead is broad and rather steeply elevated over the relatively short nose. The coat is long, dense and soft. The colour varies from pale yellow to blackish-brown and dull black, but dark individuals predominate. The legs are usually the same colour as the body. The claws are dark brown, some times with light yellowish streaks at the tips, and are up to four inches (100 mm) in length. The largest specimens are found in Kamchatka and on the Shantar islands. The record bear was obtained in Kamchatka and scored 30 9/16 inches. Hunting on Shantar islands is currently prohibited. DISTRIBUTION Far eastern Siberia, including Kamchatka Peninsula, Sakhalin island, Karaginskiy Island, coastal strip west of the Sea of Okhotsk and east of the coastal mountains as far south as Uda bay, Shantar Islands and the northern Kuril Islands. HUNT Hunting is organised in Kamchatka peninsula, Okhotsk, Magadan and Sakhalin island. During the Spring in the coastal areas bears are hunted along the shoreline, where they concentrate, looking for seafood. Inland bears are easily spotted on the hills, still covered with snow. A hunter can often spot 10 to 30 bears during the trip. In some places along the shoreline in the spring bears concentration is so high that tens of bears can be spotted in a single day. During the Fall hunting season bears are hunted while feeding on salmon in the many rivers and creeks, or on wild berries in the surrounding tundra. The usual size of the bears taken is around 8.0-9.0 ft square in Magadan and Okhotsk and 9.0-9.5 ft. square in Kamchatka. The success rate is essentially 100%. Many hunters choose to take 2 bears. Larger caliber magnum cartridges in 325-375 range are recommended. 300 Winchester Magnum , should be the minimum. SEASONS Kamchatka: end of April-May, end of August-October Okhotsk and Magadan: May-early June, end of August-October AMUR BROWN BEAR Ursus arctos lasiotus (Ussuri brown bear, black grizzly) DESCRIPTION & TAXONOMY It is smaller and darker than the Kamchatka brown bear, with a differently shaped skull and much larger teeth. The coat is often almost black in colour. The skull is longer and narrower, with especially long nasal bones and it is flatter in profile, being less elevated over the nose. The ears are noticeably hairy. Consists of the following races listed by various authorities: lasiotus (northern China), cavifrons (northwestern Manchuria), mandchuricus (Primorsky Krai), jessoensis (Sakhalin), yesoensis (Hokkaido), and melanarctos (Hokkaido). The record bear, obtained in Khabarovsk region scored 27.6 inches. DISTRIBUTION Russia: Southern Kuril Islands, Sakhalin, Maritime Territory, and the Ussuri/Amur river region south of the Stanovoy Range. China: Northeastern Heilongjiang. Japan: Hokkaido. HUNT Hunting is organised on Sakhalin island, in the Khabarovsk and Primorsky regions in the Spring by stalking along the sea shore line and in the Fall by stalking with aid of the digs. 300 Win Mag. Or similar cartridge is the minimum. Izubr stag and moose cane be taken as an additional trophy during the fall season. EURASIAN BROWN BEAR Ursus arctos arctos Head and body length is up to 8 feet (2.4 m) and more. Tail length is up to 6 inches (15.2 cm). Shoulder height 35-43 inches (89-109 cm). Weight 220-660 pounds (100-300 kg) and more. Females are about two-thirds of the size of males. This is a good-sized, powerfully built bear with a distinct shoulder hump, a large head supported by a short, muscular neck, and a concave facial profile. Overall colour can vary with individual bears from light grayish-yellow to very dark brown, almost black. Juveniles may have a conspicuous pale collar. The coat length depends on region and season. This bear is solitary except when mating, and very territorial, with a large home range. They breed late May to July, with cubs born in the den from late December to February. Cubs remain with the mother two years or longer. Sexual maturity is reached at five years or later. These bears are active mainly at twilight and at night. Largely herbivorous, eating all kinds of plants. They also eat ants, insect larvae, honey, rodents, fish and carrion. Occasionally they may kill larger animals such as moose, reindeer and domestic livestock. Hibernation lasts up to 6 months. Senses of smell and hearing are excellent, eyesight not as good. This bear is a fast and agile runner and an excellent swimmer. Adults are unable to climb trees because of the shape of their claws and their body weight. The records from Europe and Asia are registered separately. The record bear scored 27 6/16” taken in the Pskov region or Russia. DISTRIBUTION The most widespread form of brown bear in Eurasia is mainly found today in Russia, Romania and the former Yugoslavia. Smaller numbers are found in Norway, Sweden, Finland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Hungary, Albania, Bulgaria and Greece, and remnant populations are found in Spain, France and Italy. The current estimated population of Eurasian brown bear in Russia is well over 30,000. Inhabits coniferous forests with an abundance of edible plants, frequently with steep terrain and difficult access. HUNT This is the most popular and least expensive brown bear hunt not only in Russia, but anywhere in the world. We organise hunting for the European population of Eurasian bear in the North-Western part of Russia and for the Asian population in the Ural mountains and in the Eastern Siberia. These are some of the best hunts in the European part of Russia. The bear population during the past 20 years has been very stable. The usual trophy size is about 7.5-8 ft. square, although 8.5- ft. bears have been taken by our clients every year. This bear is usually hunted by baiting during the spring or fall, by chance encounter while hunting other game during the fall. Sometimes hunted by breaking into their dens during hibernation, which is a very dangerous and adrenalin loaded hunt. The success rate is about 90%. Some hunters take more than one bear. We recommend to use at least 30-06 or similar cartridge. SEASONS April-May, end of August-February SIBERIAN BROWN BEAR Ursus arctos collaris DESCRIPTION & TAXONOMY The Siberian brown bear is intermediate in size between the Eurasian and Kamchatka brown bears. It is larger than the Eurasian brown bear, with more massive bones and a somewhat larger and heavier skull, but smaller than the Kamchatka brown bear The fur is long, soft and dense, it is more luxuriant than that of any other bear. The colour is usually dark brown with noticeably darker legs, but will vary from light pale brown to dark brown, and some individuals will show yellowish, cinnamon or black tones. The claws are brown to blackish-brown, strongly curved, up to 3- 1/3 inches (85 mm) in length. The brown bears of the Kolyma and Anadyr basins are included in this category. They are similar to the grizzlies of North America – smaller, long-haired and aggressive. The Siberian brown bear category includes the following subspecies that have been described by various authorities: collaris (Siberia), sibiricus (Siberia), jeniseensis (Krasnoyarsk region), kolymensis (Kolyma River), and baikalensis (lrkutsk region). The record trophy score is 26 13/16 inches. The second largest SCI trophy was taken by one of our clients. DISTRIBUTION East of the Yenisey river in most of Siberia (except for the habitat of the Kamchatka and Amur brown bears.) Also in northern Mongolia, far northern Xinjiang, and extreme eastern Kazakhstan. HUNT We organise Siberian bear hunt in the Krasnoyarsk, Irkutsk, Altai and Yakutia regions. These hunts usually take place in rugged and heavily forested terrain, where getting in range of the bear offers a greater challenge. The best chance to spot a bear is in the foothills of the mountains, or along the shorelines, where the forest is less dense. Spring hunts, when bears actively look for food and there is no foliage to conceal them are usually 100% successful. Horses and boats are used very often for transportation. Another option, baiting, is frequently used when hunting takes place in the dense forest. The average trophy is similar in size to a North American grizzly. 300 caliber magnum cartridge should be the minimum. SEASONS End of August – February, end of April – beginning of June MID EASTERN BROWN BEAR Ursus arctos syriacus (Syrian brown bear, Caucasian brown bear) DESCRIPTION & TAXONOMY This is a smaller brown bear, considerably paler in colour than the Eurasian brown, with a coarser and sparser coat. The colour varies from pale straw to dull grayish-brown, with a large dark brown patch of long hair on the withers and sometimes a rather wide dorsal stripe extending back from it. There may be a dark brown patch on the head and sometimes there is a white collar. The claws are straighter and lighter in colour than in northern races. Smaller, lighter coloured bears tend to occur at higher altitudes, with larger and darker bears in the forests below. This bear is extremely aggressive towards humans. The record was obtained in Turkey and scored 26 inches. DISTRIBUTION Turkey, Syria, Iran, and the Caucasus mountains of Russia, Georgia and Azerbaijan. HUNT Russian Hunting Agency and Sergei Shushunov offer Mid Eastern Brown Bear hunts in the Northern Caucasus by stalking. The hunt is physically demanding due to a very difficult and steep terrain and unpredictable weather. 30-06 or similar cartridge is the minimum. 
Kamchatka Brown Bears
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Kamchatka Brown Bears
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