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N'waswitshaka males

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(04-04-2025, 09:18 PM)Guillermo94 Wrote:
(04-04-2025, 08:13 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: Orange-Eyed male 10th March. Credits to Keagan Chasenski.


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Hi. I have a question. Is this male lion related to Ndhzenga?

For some reason the N'waswitshaka males, despite having that name because they're from the N'waswitshaka pride, are generally referred to as the Ndzenga males by Mala Mala and Londolozi, the two reserves where their territory is located. So yes they are the same males.
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I think it’s because ndzenga is easier to say and spell compared to nwaswitshaka
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(04-05-2025, 04:31 AM)NLAL11 Wrote: For some reason the N'waswitshaka males, despite having that name because they're from the N'waswitshaka pride, are generally referred to as the Ndzenga males by Mala Mala and Londolozi, the two reserves where their territory is located. So yes they are the same males.
(04-05-2025, 04:38 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: I think it’s because ndzenga is easier to say and spell compared to nwaswitshaka
IIRC, both Lion Sands and Londolozi give different explanation on for why they are called Ndzhenga and the meaning behind it...
According to Lion Sands:
"These four males (N'waswitshaka) gained a reputation for being frustrating to track and find. They tended to retreat into a very dense sickle bush thicket, which made off-roading and locating them nearly impossible. This behaviour inspired a new name for their coalition: the ‘Ndhzenga’ males (meaning sickle-bush) after their fondness for that area."

Londolozi:
"Ndhzenga means thorn in the side which was the name given to the coalition due to one male that has an injury from a buffalo horn on the side of his stomach."
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(04-05-2025, 01:57 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: Speaking of the nwaswitshaka males I’ve recently seen photos of the nwaswitshaka pride and the males definitely get their looks from their mothers lol they all had those ndzenga noses lol

I read their father is not the old N'waswitshaka male

@Tr1x24 maybe do you know who sired Ndzhengas?
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(04-08-2025, 06:48 AM)FACR2212 Wrote: @Tr1x24 maybe do you know who sired Ndzhengas?

Amahle and EO are sired by 2 Phabeni males (C1 and C2).

Gore is by Old N'ws.

Ubuso/WN by 3 Old Nwatimhiri males.
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(04-08-2025, 12:40 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(04-08-2025, 06:48 AM)FACR2212 Wrote: @Tr1x24 maybe do you know who sired Ndzhengas?

Amahle and EO are sired by 2 Phabeni males (C1 and C2).

Gore is by Old N'ws.

Ubuso/WN by 3 Old Nwatimhiri males.

Thank you my friend, you are like an encyclopaedia of kruger lions.
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Mala Mala monthly report for March 2025, posting as requested by @Mapokser

NDHZENGA MALES = 2
1 ADULT MALE 10 YEARS 1 MONTH
1 ADULT MALE 9 YEARS 8 MONTHS
WESTERN MALAMALA, FLOCKFIELD & CHARLESTON
Dominant over the Kambula pride and Ntsevu pride.
First Encountered on MalaMala Game Reserve in September 2020.
(26 sightings)

On the 2nd, the older male was with three Kambula lionesses at West Street Bridge and the next day
one male was at the Airstrip while the other was feeding on an elephant carcass at Buffalo Pans. He
remained here for the next three days and was joined by members of the Kambula Pride. Both males
were with the Kambula pride north of Hyena Waterhole on the 6th and north of Jakkalsdraai Open
Area the next day. On the 9th, they were at Piccadilly Triangle and joined the Ntsevu Pride at the
Airstrip later that day. On the 13th, the older male was at Princess Alice Pans and continued
eastwards to join his brother and the Kambula Pride east of Drum Crossing. The next day they were
with the sub-adults of the Kambula pride east of Rattray’s Camp and were west of the Kapen
Breakfast Spot on the 16th. The following day one male was west of the Airstrip and the other was at
West Street Bridge with members of the Kambula Pride. Both males were west of MalaMala Camp
on the 18th and on the 20th, one male was with the Kambula Pride north of Rattray’s Camp. On the
22nd, they were at Elephant Rock Lookout and two days later they were northeast of West Street
Bridge with the Kambula Pride. The following day they were with two Kambula lionesses at a giraffe
carcass at Charleston North Crossing and on the 26th they joined the bulk of the Kambula Pride at
Kapen Breakfast Spot. On the 27th, one male stole an impala kill from the Stone Drift female and her
cub north of West Street Bridge, whilst the other was at Piccadilly Triangle. The next day they were
west of Rattray’s Camp and on the 29th they were with the Ntsevu pride west of MalaMala Camp.
They were with the Ntsevu Pride on the 31st at Piccadilly Triangle where they were being quite vocal.
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N'waswistshakas arrived in Sabi Sands around 2020 as 4 males
Sired cubs with Southern female and Styx Pride 
Left those "prides" because as a coalition of 4 young males getting on their prime years saw bigger fish with the Birmingham males getting older and made a run for the huge Kambula Pride 
The Birminghams in itself were not a problem , but the Northen Avocas were 
After giving a beating to Blondie Avoca that marked the beggining of the end for the long Avoca reign in the north, Ndzhengas were able to get the Kambula Pride for themselfs
Kambulas made a Breakaway who would eventually also be controled by the Ndzhengas 

So far so good 
Styx were losing cubs but some made it to adulthood 
Southern lioness built her pride on her own with the Ndzhengas Offspring 
Kambulas and Ntsevus started having cubs with the 4 males 
Their borders were no problem
North was still stable with Mohawk and Dark Mane doing their own thing 
East was never a problem till this day 
In the West they were killing each other but nothing to do with the Ndzhengas 
In the South 2 Young males arrived and were named Gijimas 
The nomads would eventually take over Styx and Southern Prides and thankfully did not kill the Ndzhengas offspring ( almost a miracle) 
But they weren't the perfect neighbours, far from it
The clashed with Uboso Ndzhenga and the oldest Ndzhenga never recovered from that, he didn't die to the injuries but after that battle the dominant Uboso was never the same and died 
Gijimas weren't seen again clashing with the Ndzhengas...

Down to 3 everything seemed well but not long after Uboso's death it was time for Gore to join him 
Gore death wasn't predictable atleast not for me, he had that injury for years but I guess it was a bomb ready to explode 
Ndzhengas were now down to 2 

Kambula and Ntsevu Pride Lost some cubs here and there but everything was perfect 
Ndzhengas rivals were/are
Plains Camp- never a Clash just border disputes
Kambulas- 4 males that didn't cause much trouble 
Nkuhlus- the thin southern neighbours that were rapidly put in their place 
Black Dam- 2 males in the north that were causing some worrying but Ndzhengas quickly dealt with them 
Destiny would have that their oldest Son the Styx male would be the one who would end up killing and injuring Ndzhengas offspring, he was quickly chased by his fathers 
Not many males are "lucky" enough to interact in such way with their sons from other prides 

Today we are seeing Ndzhengas going north and meeting with the vacant Nkuhuma Pride 
What could this mean ? This isn't the first time we see Ndzhengas mating with Nkuhuma females 
What is stopping the now duo of experienced males ? Nothing
Kambulas and Mantimhales might cause some trouble ( more so Mantimhales) 
But so far and if united Ndzhengas can deal with them as we have seen so far 
If Nkuhuma shift their territory just a little South to where the Ndzhengas are, Mantimhales might stop being a problem and Ndzhengas might still be able to Control the Ntsevu pride 
The Kambulas sadly would most likely lose their pride males like Styx and Southern did, even tho with much older subs 


I started writing this post on the Sabi Sands thread but I tought it fitted better here 
I'm sorry in advance If I Said something wrong or forgot something I was going by memorie
Thank you for reading and sorry for the broken english
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Great post Rui, very well written.

Their story have been incredible so far. When Gore died I was skeptical about the remaining 2 capability to hold in, since this is an extremely hard territory to defend.

The Eastern Mapogo/Mlowathi males, the last 2 Bboys, the Matshipiri males, they held a similar territory for not much longer than 2 years, but here we are, practically 2 years in and the Ndhzenga are still holding as strong as ever despite interactions with PCM, Mantimahle, Nkuhlu and Kambulas.

In fact I wouldn't downplay the clashes with the PCM, a weaker coalition would have been ousted by that, just look at what happened to BDM or Nhenha/NK after their first clashes with challenging males.

PCM at the time went deep into Ndhzenga territory ( as Londolozi explained ) and were chasing them until getting chased back, this went back and forth for an hour until the Ndhzenga prevailed.

Last time they started chasing PCM until PCM chased back and almost caught Eorenji... a few days after that the Ndhzengas chased the Mantimahle off a carcass in the north, showing their confidence didn't take a hit.

Their confidence and strength in these chases never cease to amaze me, and funnily enough, the S.BDM out of all these coalitions were the one to give the most trouble despite being the least confident males. They invaded Ndhzenga territory a few times ( even when they were still 3 ), they even caught Amahle once, and one of them had a fight with Eorenji where Eorenji left with a pretty battered face.

Anyway, it doesn't look like the Mantimahle are a match for them as even in Mantimahle-ish territory they fled immediately both times the Ndhzenga arrived where they were. PCM would be tough competition but they gave up on their expansion to the north idea.

Issue for the NK pride is that they'd need cubs as soon as possible and some 3 years of stability, but one thing is to be so confident and strong in your prime, but 2, 3 years from now, who knows how confident the Ndhzenga will still be, not to mention the fact the Kambula and Ntsevu pride have cubs, so I'd prefer a younger coalition to take over the north and NK pride.
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(04-16-2025, 04:13 AM)Rui Ferreira Wrote: N'waswistshakas arrived in Sabi Sands around 2020 as 4 males
Sired cubs with Southern female and Styx Pride 
Left those "prides" because as a coalition of 4 young males getting on their prime years saw bigger fish with the Birmingham males getting older and made a run for the huge Kambula Pride 
The Birminghams in itself were not a problem , but the Northen Avocas were 
After giving a beating to Blondie Avoca that marked the beggining of the end for the long Avoca reign in the north, Ndzhengas were able to get the Kambula Pride for themselfs
Kambulas made a Breakaway who would eventually also be controled by the Ndzhengas 

So far so good 
Styx were losing cubs but some made it to adulthood 
Southern lioness built her pride on her own with the Ndzhengas Offspring 
Kambulas and Ntsevus started having cubs with the 4 males 
Their borders were no problem
North was still stable with Mohawk and Dark Mane doing their own thing 
East was never a problem till this day 
In the West they were killing each other but nothing to do with the Ndzhengas 
In the South 2 Young males arrived and were named Gijimas 
The nomads would eventually take over Styx and Southern Prides and thankfully did not kill the Ndzhengas offspring ( almost a miracle) 
But they weren't the perfect neighbours, far from it
The clashed with Uboso Ndzhenga and the oldest Ndzhenga never recovered from that, he didn't die to the injuries but after that battle the dominant Uboso was never the same and died 
Gijimas weren't seen again clashing with the Ndzhengas...

Down to 3 everything seemed well but not long after Uboso's death it was time for Gore to join him 
Gore death wasn't predictable atleast not for me, he had that injury for years but I guess it was a bomb ready to explode 
Ndzhengas were now down to 2 

Kambula and Ntsevu Pride Lost some cubs here and there but everything was perfect 
Ndzhengas rivals were/are
Plains Camp- never a Clash just border disputes
Kambulas- 4 males that didn't cause much trouble 
Nkuhlus- the thin southern neighbours that were rapidly put in their place 
Black Dam- 2 males in the north that were causing some worrying but Ndzhengas quickly dealt with them 
Destiny would have that their oldest Son the Styx male would be the one who would end up killing and injuring Ndzhengas offspring, he was quickly chased by his fathers 
Not many males are "lucky" enough to interact in such way with their sons from other prides 

Today we are seeing Ndzhengas going north and meeting with the vacant Nkuhuma Pride 
What could this mean ? This isn't the first time we see Ndzhengas mating with Nkuhuma females 
What is stopping the now duo of experienced males ? Nothing
Kambulas and Mantimhales might cause some trouble ( more so Mantimhales) 
But so far and if united Ndzhengas can deal with them as we have seen so far 
If Nkuhuma shift their territory just a little South to where the Ndzhengas are, Mantimhales might stop being a problem and Ndzhengas might still be able to Control the Ntsevu pride 
The Kambulas sadly would most likely lose their pride males like Styx and Southern did, even tho with much older subs 


I started writing this post on the Sabi Sands thread but I tought it fitted better here 
I'm sorry in advance If I Said something wrong or forgot something I was going by memorie
Thank you for reading and sorry for the broken english

Hi. I am hoping Ndzhenga male lions go back to the Kambula lionesses, but if they can stay around Nestuvo lionesses and cubs would be good. Nestuvo lionesses cubs are still young. Kambula five and Kambula seven are in den. Wonder if Ndzhenga male lions would visit them. I was wondering if Kambula five and Kambula seven could join Nestuvo lioneses Kambula five sisters.
I hope Ndzhenga male lions do not abandon Kambula lionesses and cubs. If sub adults are around two and almost three; maybe subadults will be ok. I would hope Ndzhenga male lions do not leave Kambula lionesses just yet. I still think Ndzhnega male lions would help sub adults. If Ndzhenga male lions spend more in north and hopefully Nestuvo lionesses; like plain camp male lions did maybe will choose north or Kambula lionesses. When Plain camp male lions stayed with Ximhunguwe lionesses; Ximhuguwe lioness was mating with plain camp male lions. 

Talking about it wondering if Ximhuguwe lioness chose to mate with Palin camp male lions strategically? Ximhuguwe lioness was aware of plain camp male lions going further around other lionesses? Wondering if lionesses can choose strategically to mate? Ximuguwe lioness just seems like a very strong experience lioness. Ximhuguwe lionesses is fighting hard. Ximhunguwe lioness experience and leadership is I think how strong Ximhunguwe lionesses have gotten. Hopefully Ximhunguwe lionesses subadults, cubs get strong and grow happily. If Ximhunguwe cubs can be successful; I would love seeing and Ximhunguwe lioness would be successful. 

Back to Ndzhenga male lions. Like plain camp male lions when mating with Ximhunguwe lionesses. Ndzhenga male lions may go back to Kambula lionesses assuming hopefully would all be ok and Ndzhenga in north; Ndzhenga male lions may go back to Kambula lionesses who are with subadults.
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(04-16-2025, 04:13 AM)Rui Ferreira Wrote: N'waswistshakas arrived in Sabi Sands around 2020 as 4 males
Sired cubs with Southern female and Styx Pride 
Left those "prides" because as a coalition of 4 young males getting on their prime years saw bigger fish with the Birmingham males getting older and made a run for the huge Kambula Pride 
The Birminghams in itself were not a problem , but the Northen Avocas were 
After giving a beating to Blondie Avoca that marked the beggining of the end for the long Avoca reign in the north, Ndzhengas were able to get the Kambula Pride for themselfs
Kambulas made a Breakaway who would eventually also be controled by the Ndzhengas 

So far so good 
Styx were losing cubs but some made it to adulthood 
Southern lioness built her pride on her own with the Ndzhengas Offspring 
Kambulas and Ntsevus started having cubs with the 4 males 
Their borders were no problem
North was still stable with Mohawk and Dark Mane doing their own thing 
East was never a problem till this day 
In the West they were killing each other but nothing to do with the Ndzhengas 
In the South 2 Young males arrived and were named Gijimas 
The nomads would eventually take over Styx and Southern Prides and thankfully did not kill the Ndzhengas offspring ( almost a miracle) 
But they weren't the perfect neighbours, far from it
The clashed with Uboso Ndzhenga and the oldest Ndzhenga never recovered from that, he didn't die to the injuries but after that battle the dominant Uboso was never the same and died 
Gijimas weren't seen again clashing with the Ndzhengas...

Down to 3 everything seemed well but not long after Uboso's death it was time for Gore to join him 
Gore death wasn't predictable atleast not for me, he had that injury for years but I guess it was a bomb ready to explode 
Ndzhengas were now down to 2 

Kambula and Ntsevu Pride Lost some cubs here and there but everything was perfect 
Ndzhengas rivals were/are
Plains Camp- never a Clash just border disputes
Kambulas- 4 males that didn't cause much trouble 
Nkuhlus- the thin southern neighbours that were rapidly put in their place 
Black Dam- 2 males in the north that were causing some worrying but Ndzhengas quickly dealt with them 
Destiny would have that their oldest Son the Styx male would be the one who would end up killing and injuring Ndzhengas offspring, he was quickly chased by his fathers 
Not many males are "lucky" enough to interact in such way with their sons from other prides 

Today we are seeing Ndzhengas going north and meeting with the vacant Nkuhuma Pride 
What could this mean ? This isn't the first time we see Ndzhengas mating with Nkuhuma females 
What is stopping the now duo of experienced males ? Nothing
Kambulas and Mantimhales might cause some trouble ( more so Mantimhales) 
But so far and if united Ndzhengas can deal with them as we have seen so far 
If Nkuhuma shift their territory just a little South to where the Ndzhengas are, Mantimhales might stop being a problem and Ndzhengas might still be able to Control the Ntsevu pride 
The Kambulas sadly would most likely lose their pride males like Styx and Southern did, even tho with much older subs 


I started writing this post on the Sabi Sands thread but I tought it fitted better here 
I'm sorry in advance If I Said something wrong or forgot something I was going by memorie
Thank you for reading and sorry for the broken english

Excellent effort, my friend, thank you for sharing this, for all of us!
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(04-16-2025, 04:13 AM)Rui Ferreira Wrote: N'waswistshakas arrived in Sabi Sands around 2020 as 4 males
Sired cubs with Southern female and Styx Pride 
Left those "prides" because as a coalition of 4 young males getting on their prime years saw bigger fish with the Birmingham males getting older and made a run for the huge Kambula Pride 
The Birminghams in itself were not a problem , but the Northen Avocas were 
After giving a beating to Blondie Avoca that marked the beggining of the end for the long Avoca reign in the north, Ndzhengas were able to get the Kambula Pride for themselfs
Kambulas made a Breakaway who would eventually also be controled by the Ndzhengas 

So far so good 
Styx were losing cubs but some made it to adulthood 
Southern lioness built her pride on her own with the Ndzhengas Offspring 
Kambulas and Ntsevus started having cubs with the 4 males 
Their borders were no problem
North was still stable with Mohawk and Dark Mane doing their own thing 
East was never a problem till this day 
In the West they were killing each other but nothing to do with the Ndzhengas 
In the South 2 Young males arrived and were named Gijimas 
The nomads would eventually take over Styx and Southern Prides and thankfully did not kill the Ndzhengas offspring ( almost a miracle) 
But they weren't the perfect neighbours, far from it
The clashed with Uboso Ndzhenga and the oldest Ndzhenga never recovered from that, he didn't die to the injuries but after that battle the dominant Uboso was never the same and died 
Gijimas weren't seen again clashing with the Ndzhengas...

Down to 3 everything seemed well but not long after Uboso's death it was time for Gore to join him 
Gore death wasn't predictable atleast not for me, he had that injury for years but I guess it was a bomb ready to explode 
Ndzhengas were now down to 2 

Kambula and Ntsevu Pride Lost some cubs here and there but everything was perfect 
Ndzhengas rivals were/are
Plains Camp- never a Clash just border disputes
Kambulas- 4 males that didn't cause much trouble 
Nkuhlus- the thin southern neighbours that were rapidly put in their place 
Black Dam- 2 males in the north that were causing some worrying but Ndzhengas quickly dealt with them 
Destiny would have that their oldest Son the Styx male would be the one who would end up killing and injuring Ndzhengas offspring, he was quickly chased by his fathers 
Not many males are "lucky" enough to interact in such way with their sons from other prides 

Today we are seeing Ndzhengas going north and meeting with the vacant Nkuhuma Pride 
What could this mean ? This isn't the first time we see Ndzhengas mating with Nkuhuma females 
What is stopping the now duo of experienced males ? Nothing
Kambulas and Mantimhales might cause some trouble ( more so Mantimhales) 
But so far and if united Ndzhengas can deal with them as we have seen so far 
If Nkuhuma shift their territory just a little South to where the Ndzhengas are, Mantimhales might stop being a problem and Ndzhengas might still be able to Control the Ntsevu pride 
The Kambulas sadly would most likely lose their pride males like Styx and Southern did, even tho with much older subs 


I started writing this post on the Sabi Sands thread but I tought it fitted better here 
I'm sorry in advance If I Said something wrong or forgot something I was going by memorie
Thank you for reading and sorry for the broken english

Very good and clear summary about the territorial life of Ndzhenga males!
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(04-16-2025, 04:13 AM)Rui Ferreira Wrote: N'waswistshakas arrived in Sabi Sands around 2020 as 4 males

They arrived in mid to late 2019, become territorial year later.

They where visiting southern Sabi Sands since late 2017 (with mother and sister) and 2018 (with sister), WN/Ubuso joined somewhere either thru 2018 or early 2019.
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