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(04-18-2020, 08:34 AM)Pckts Wrote: Everything posted is the same old back and forth, weights are estimates and you have no actual data on which carcasses were weighed, what they weighed, what state they were found in and so on.
In regards to the Rhino predation you again are misrepresenting the discussion. We were talking about a calf vs a sub adult.
And just like Gaur, Rhino come in many different sizes. No Tiger is killing an adult Rhino without some extroidanary circumstances going on.
And Shadow, Pantherinae and I have all gone back and forth on Big Bull capes as well. I've stated the same and shown examples of the differences between a Bull and a big alpha bull. Maybe you should review those discussions to get a better understanding of the differences between the two.
That is the problem with you in this case dude, you say that we don't have actual data but when I put the tables, the pictures, the books, where it shows the state, health and age status of the carcasses, plus the fact that the weights were not simple "estimations" but the result of real carcasses weights plus the amount ate by a tiger (which is no more than 140 kg for a tiger eating 35 kg for a period of 4 days) you just ignore them and your only excuse is YOUR opinion.
Like I told you before, you have not provided any evidence to proof that Dr Karanth and Dr Sunquist are incorrect, or to actually show that tigers can't kill bull gaurs up to 1000 kg, you only put your opinion, respected but incorrect.
Also, like I say, I don't have to much information about lion predation, so I can't say anything about it, but I will like that other poster can provide usefull data, not only "opinions".
I allready read the entire topic of tiger predation on rhinos, and you defended that the rhino was subadult and Shadow that was a calf, but at the end is the same thing, you don't complain about a tiger predating a huge rhino, you accepted those records, so I don't understand why you don't do the same with gaurs?
Maximum size of prey that a single male lion or tiger can kill
