Maximum size of prey that a single male lion or tiger can kill

[Pckts]

(03-16-2020, 11:39 PM)GuateGojira Wrote:

(03-16-2020, 11:33 PM)Pckts Wrote: The weights claimed are estimates and Gaur predation wasn't witnessed, only scat and carcasses observed.
I'm well aware that Tigers hunt Gaur, they do so often but a Big Bull Gaur is in a different league than just a standard Bull Gaur. 
And a 1000kg Bull would be a totally different monster IMO.

Quote:They said that they actually weighed the animals, remember that I asked to Dr Sunquist about that some years ago, and althought the predation was not witnessed in all the cases, you can see in the pictures that they checked the specimens, checking the form that tiger used to kill the specimens. Details of this you can see it in other publications of Dr Karanth. 

I'm sure they can weigh the animals but I doubt Karanth did so and I doubt it's really done at all tbh.
The equipment and man power to do so would be immense and I'd assume it'd have to be a specific study on Bovine size to actually log that data. 

Quote:What is the difference of "big adult gaur" and "standard bull gaur"? That is just your personal assumption, not a real concept used by scientists and also by tigers themselves. 

A big Bull is massive, he's all muscle and his shoulder looks like it stands as tall as I am, which is 6'5'' and they are very thick.
They literally look to be the size of a gypsy when you drive past them. 
Most bulls are much smaller with far less muscular humps and a leaner profile. 
The same goes for Capes, most Bull capes are fairly modest in size but the huge alphas have giant necks and very robust bodies. 
I've seen some massive lions and tigers in my life and they would look like pussy cats next to these big boys. I just have a really hard time seeing as to how they would be successful in a straight up conflict, it seems impossible to me. 

Quote:We have records of tigers attacking huge bulls in old litterature too and if a tiger can kill a rhino, there is no reason why they can't hunt a bull gaur that weigh less.

I know we have records of it happening and I'm sure it has happened but what isn't know is the condition of the animals being attacked *injured, old, already deceased* etc.  
I've began to take most of the accounts with a major grain of salt and I know my criteria is different than others so it gets lost in translation when debating this topic.

Edit: In regards to the Gaur image
Do you know the weight claimed and how much of it was actually consumed?
Also is there a witness to the kill or just a carcass found?
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