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Matimba Coalition Male Lineage

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(11-01-2020, 04:44 PM)TinoArmando Wrote: The Talamati male on the move through Silvan Safari Lodge

This is what confuses me about this Talamati.. 

He was seen since around 2016 to late 2018 with 2 Mhangenis.. But this sighting of him in early 2019 was in western sector where Silvan Safari Lodge is located..

And after that in April 2019 he was seen in Manyeleti :


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In South of Sabi Sands in mid 2019 :

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So Talamati abandoned Mhangenis somewhere in late 2018-early 2019..and is no longer in a coalition with them as we taught...did he rejoin them after that? 

Is that the reason why Talamati is not seen with 2 males that we think are Mhangenis around H1-1/Transport Dam..
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The elder Mbiri male near Kumana Dam 

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Young Junior with Ginger in late 2015, WildEarth :


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I remember that video, Junior was almost big as Ginger and HB at around 3.5 yrs old.. I think Junior is quite underrated when we talk about lion sizes..

Also i found this photo of Junior and Buddy in early 2017 around Orpen Dam:


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This might be the first photo of them together, we can also see that Buddy is quite young there, still had Mohawk.. 

Buddy is also not a small male, shame he drags that injury in his prime years..
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(11-16-2020, 09:21 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Young Junior with Ginger in late 2015, WildEarth :


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I remember that video, Junior was almost big as Ginger and HB at around 3.5 yrs old.. I think Junior is quite underrated when we talk about lion sizes..

Also i found this photo of Junior and Buddy in early 2017 around Orpen Dam:


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This might be the first photo of them together, we can also see that Buddy is quite young there, still had Mohawk.. 

Buddy is also not a small male, shame he drags that injury in his prime years..
Actually I have seen another image of them together. Junior was much younger and Buddy too. Definitely isn't the first photo of them together
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Junior is a beast now
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"I remember that video, Junior was almost big as Ginger and HB at around 3.5 yrs old.. I think Junior is quite underrated when we talk about lion sizes.."

Yup, Junior definitely isn't avarage size lion as all Matimba sons I believe. I even thought while ago that he is largest lion around, but that doesn't seem to be the case as Tintswalo rangers seem to be more immpresed with size to Red Road male and young males from Mbiri pride. 
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I’ve always wondered if this was Junior and his “brother” in Feb 2013: 





Nkuhumas had a lot of cubs initially but sadly I think only Junior and 3 sisters survived from that first litter.
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(11-16-2020, 10:30 PM)Potato Wrote: Yup, Junior definitely isn't avarage size lion as all Matimba sons I believe. I even thought while ago that he is largest lion around, but that doesn't seem to be the case as Tintswalo rangers seem to be more immpresed with size to Red Road male and young males from Mbiri pride. 

Well, they always referring to Junior, as big Orpen male, also rangers from Ngala said that Orpens are quite bigger then Ross males. 

Rangers never said that young Mbiris are already big as Orpens.. And actually, on WildEarth few days ago, when Mbiris where spotted, ranger said that Ross males are bigger then them..
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"Well, they always referring to Junior, as big Orpen male, also rangers from Ngala said that Orpens are quite bigger then Ross males. "

I didn't say he isn't.

"Rangers never said that young Mbiris are already big as Orpens"

They months ago said that Mbiris and Nharu are big and hear them roaring might be reason why Orpens do not come close to Mbiri pride. Most recently also they said Mbiris and Nharhu are very big. I do not remember them talking in such way about Orpens. 

"And actually, on WildEarth few days ago, when Mbiris where spotted, ranger said that Ross males are bigger then them.."


Did they? Could you give a link? I only seen episode in which Mbiris with Nharu were sleeping full belied in Ngala. Ranger then said they look to be big indyviduals althrough it is hard to say anythink more untill he see sthem standing insteed of lying down. I didn't see them comparing Mbiris to Ross.
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(11-16-2020, 11:43 PM)Potato Wrote: They months ago said that Mbiris and Nharu are big and hear them roaring might be reason why Orpens do not come close to Mbiri pride. Most recently also they said Mbiris and Nharhu are very big. I do not remember them talking in such way about Orpens

About Mbiris and Nharu i think they meant big for young males..

Yea, at that scene when they where lying he said that they are yet not as big as 2 males that we seen earlier, 2 Ross males.. At Sunset 08,Nov..2:46:40.

Mbiris, except Nharu are not even 4 yrs old, and they said that Nharu is the biggest/tallest of them, rangers prob meant that they are big for their age, which they are, they look quite impressive and will be beasts for sure in future..
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(11-16-2020, 11:28 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(11-16-2020, 10:30 PM)Potato Wrote: Yup, Junior definitely isn't avarage size lion as all Matimba sons I believe. I even thought while ago that he is largest lion around, but that doesn't seem to be the case as Tintswalo rangers seem to be more immpresed with size to Red Road male and young males from Mbiri pride. 

Well, they always referring to Junior, as big Orpen male, also rangers from Ngala said that Orpens are quite bigger then Ross males. 

Rangers never said that young Mbiris are already big as Orpens.. And actually, on WildEarth few days ago, when Mbiris where spotted, ranger said that Ross males are bigger then them..

To be honest, the Ross males not are big male's. They should be most likely average size lions. Now an example,Junior,Mbiri (Zig-Zag) among other are big lions and bulky as well much bigger than the Ross males
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A beautiful collage of the elder Mbiri male #1 who partnered up with the RockFig male. He isn't beautiful?
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Born: 2011

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The Torchwood male sired by the Southern Matimba males (most likely Hairy Belly).
Photo credit to: Anita Baert
KNP,July 2019


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The Torchwood male who is seen with Fourways pride in Kirkman's Kamp 
Posted10/31/2018.,Kirkman's Kamp 
Photo credit to Eckson Sithole
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(11-19-2020, 04:47 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: The Torchwood male who is seen with Fourways pride in Kirkman's Kamp 
Posted10/31/2018.,Kirkman's Kamp 
Photo credit to Eckson Sithole

I wonder if he is still alive somewhere... He was seen with 2 young Fourways, (Matshapiris sons) around H10/s128 in 2019, but lately only 1 Fourways was seen around that area..
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