Lions of Sabi Sands

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(08-28-2024, 02:05 AM)Potato Wrote:

(08-27-2024, 10:09 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Yes it wasn't a serious all out challenge for a pride/territory or even food, but both tried hard for hours until Ndhzengas prevailed

Well then... we differently interpretate what happened there.

(08-27-2024, 10:09 PM)Mapokser Wrote: if PCM were much stronger they'd have done to Ndhzengas what they do to Kambulas, easy chase.

The think is that at this point there is no reason for them to fight, maybe aside Plains Camp males willing to push Ndzengas a bit further away from Nkuchuma pride. That is for now at least, assuming it is only border dispute and PC males won't try to push for take over of Kambula and Ntsevu pride which I assume they won't at least in the following year or two.

(08-27-2024, 10:09 PM)Mapokser Wrote: MalaMala says that every time the BDM heard the Ndhzenga roars they'd retreat.

BDM were venturing deep into Ndzengas lands and even beat one of them 2vs1. How is that retreating any time they heard Ndzengas. When venturing into their territory they must have be perfectly avare what they are up against (hearing Ndzengas and smelling their scent). After all they at that point were settled down coalition bortering Ndzengas for months, not a transpassing nomads, just happened to apear on Ndzengas lands without knowing who rules those lands.

(08-27-2024, 04:38 PM)Ngonya Wrote: Tr1x has already talked about it and i agree, it seems much more like the Gijimas are invading and challenging Nkhulus than the other way around

1. Gijimas already chassed Nkhulu at least on 3 different occasion from their own territory. 
2. It is almost insane to assume that dominant duo would even consider expanding their territory on near by lands own by coalition of 6.
3. Even if we would take this assumpion as true, there is no real prize for Gijimas to takeover. Sand River females already have cubs and won't be willing to mate even if by some miracle Gijimas would oust Nkhulus. If/when those 2 coalitions will clash it will be over Styx pride females which are very much in Gijimas terriory.

While it it true Nkhulus have only now really started to test Gijimas and seek them out, Gijimas definitely started off challenging them more this year than they themselves were being challenged. I remember one report, which I think ended up being confirmed, about the Gijimas chasing Nkhulus in their own territory and then mating with a Sand River Pride lioness. 

I don’t think Gijimas stopped going into Nkhulu territory recently because they fear them, I genuinely think after some of the younger Styx lioness accepted them and started to mate, they’ve had no real reason to leave. Gijimas are definitely still the more confident coalition. Reply