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Lions of Sabi Sands
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 (08-23-2024, 05:03 PM)RookiePundit Wrote: I fixed it for you. YT Shorts videos require a special process, here is a link to the tutorial. Cheers, https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-embeddi...-your-post  (08-23-2024, 07:36 PM)Rui Ferreira Wrote:(08-23-2024, 05:27 PM)Dreadlocks Wrote: Birmingham boys Nhenha and Mfumo Hi yes lions could have different fathers born and the same mother.  (08-22-2024, 09:41 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Styx young male and Kambula breakaway female stil together: It's up in the air if these lions are like they are due to environmental circumstances, genetics, or a mix of both so we can't say some went into estrus first due to environmental reasons, or like you put it "experiences and circumstances in life". It could just be genetics, Styx and Southern subs are sisters, they went into estrus quicker than the average. Tsalala and K12 are the opposite, also sisters. Othawas? Their mother went into estrus around the age they are right now and Othawa lions are known for developing quick, the Othawa sons of the Mapogo, Majingilane and Tumbela were all quick to develop.  (08-24-2024, 08:06 AM)Mapokser Wrote: It could just be genetics, Styx and Southern subs are sisters, they went into estrus quicker than the average. Tsalala and K12 are the opposite, also sisters. K12 sisters from Kambula pride, started mating with Ndhzengas before they where 4. So I dont think genetics has anything to do in this case , as anomally is only 1 female who went away with their brothers. I dont think that coinciedence, and that she is the only one genetically different. If K12 stayed with pride, and lets say Ndhzengas accepted her, she would very likely already have cubs. I think experience and circumstances are way more impactful then genetics.
And elder Kambulas became territorial a year before their younger brothers despite having the same life and becoming nomads the same time, all despite having fewer numbers. Not everybody will be the same, but didn't young Kambulas start mating in mid to late 2022? None of the cubs are even close to 2yo and the Kambula females are 6yo already.
They began to mate at 4yo IIRC, which is the normal/average. If she was with the pride, yes she'd likely have cubs by now, but as I said, we don't know how much of such developments are due to genetics and environment. It's like a lion's mane, we know the environment affects it, stress, sickness, not feeding enough, harsh life etc, but we also know genetics affect it a lot, some lions are naturally bald, others have big manes. It's impossible to say how much of a lion's development and behavior is due to environmental and genetics factors. 
It’s literally just the situation nothing about genetics nothing about the males well the males do play a part if they don’t kill the younger females but it’s literally just the situation nothing else
[b]The Calm Before The Storm- An Imminent Battle Between Male Lions[/b]
 *This image is copyright of its original author In the heart of the African wilderness, where the rhythms of nature dictate the rise and fall of empires, two coalitions of male lions are on a collision course that could redefine the landscape of Londolozi. The Ndzhenga Males, who despite some early hardships and the loss of two comrades have firmly cemented their presence and dominance to the east, and the ambitious Plains Camp Males, whose hunger for expansion knows no bounds, are poised for a battle that has everyone on tenterhooks. In the relentless drive to protect what is theirs, another fascinating story of Male Lion Legacy and Power is unfolding.  *This image is copyright of its original author The Reign of the Ndzhenga Males The current lion dynamics at Londolozi are a fascinating study in both stability and the anticipation of change. The Ndzhenga Males, with their commanding presence, have established a firm grip on their territory. Despite their hardships in the early times after their arrival and the loss of two compatriots, their dominance has brought a period of relative calm, allowing us to observe and enjoy the dynamics of the Kambula Pride and Ntsevu Pride under their reign.  *This image is copyright of its original author The pride gathers – An Ndzhenga Male, flanked by two Ntsevu Lionesses look on 6 playful cubs bring their mischievous joy into this family portrait. The Ndzhenga Males are a force to be reckoned with, tirelessly patrolling their territory and warding off threats in the eastern tracts of Londolozi and beyond. Their confidence and prowess have only grown, yet there’s a certain tension that underlies the tranquility—a reminder that in the wild, nothing remains the same for long. With two prides under their protection, both with sets of cubs, the Ndzhenga Males are not just defending a territory—they’re safeguarding their progeny, ensuring their bloodline continues to thrive. The Calm Before the Storm? While the Ndzhenga Males hold strong, the shadow of the Plains Camp Males looms on the horizon. These younger and ambitious lions are a rising force, and their inevitable confrontation with the Ndzhenga Coalition is a battle that has us all on the edge of our seats.  *This image is copyright of its original author Plains Camp Males at the Causeway. With recent expeditions seeing the Plains Camp Males venture further and further east into the Ndzhenga Males’ territory, a clash is inevitable. Each morning at Londolozi, as the sun breaks over the horizon, there’s a collective anticipation among guides and trackers alike—will today be the day we wake to the roar of battle between these two powerful coalitions? Capturing these lions in the moments leading up to what could be a significant shift in power is like photographing history in the making. The tension in their postures, the way they scent the air, and the occasional distant roar all hint at the impending clash. While it is difficult to judge the two coalitions ahead of any major encounter, these photos are more than just beautiful—they’re filled with a sense of foreboding and the thrilling unpredictability of nature.  *This image is copyright of its original author Greed or Strategy? The Plains Camp Males’ Expansion The Plains Camp Males are not satisfied with the enormous territory they already cover. Their recent incursions into the Ndzhenga Males’ territory suggest a strategy of relentless expansion, but is it a wise one? History has shown that greed can be a lion’s downfall.  *This image is copyright of its original author Continuously pushing the territorial boundaries. The fate of the Othawa Male is a somber reminder of this—once a regal and powerful lion, he was caught off guard and killed after pushing too far east into the Birmingham Males’ territory.  *This image is copyright of its original author The deceased Ottawa Male, an incredible specimen of a male lion. It was a sad day for all lion followers, and it serves as a cautionary tale for the Plains Camp Males. Will their ambition lead them to overreach, or will they successfully carve out an even larger domain?  *This image is copyright of its original author Not shy of any conflict, the Plains Camp Males bring with them a valuable fighting experience. A Battle of Equals? As the tension between these two coalitions mounts, it’s too difficult to make a definitive call on which group is more dominant. Initially, the Plains Camp Males appeared to have the upper hand—bigger, more aggressive, and seemingly eager to engage in conflict. Their recent skirmishes have only added to their reputation as fierce competitors. In the battle for territory between male lions, experience in fighting is invaluable, and the Plains Camp Males are often seen on extensive territorial patrols, covering vast distances, roaring, chasing other lions away, and responding to distant roars with an assertive authority.  *This image is copyright of its original author The Plains Camp Males are a force to be reckoned with. However, the Ndzhenga Males, despite their initial setbacks, have proven themselves as a formidable duo. Less focused on expanding their territory, they have channeled their energy into fortifying their stronghold and protecting their prides. Recently, they surprised us all by fending off the Plains Camp Males and chasing them back west—a move that demonstrated their resilience and determination to defend what is theirs.  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author The Anticipation Builds As we await the outcome of this impending battle, the air at Londolozi is thick with anticipation. Each roar in the distance, each patrol sighted, and each encounter documented adds another layer to the story. Who will emerge victorious in this clash of titans? Only time will tell. But one thing is certain: the dynamics of the Londolozi lions are about to change, and we are here, cameras ready, to capture every moment. https://blog.londolozi.com/2024/08/26/th...ale-lions/  (08-26-2024, 10:21 AM)Mapokser Wrote: [b]The Calm Before The Storm- An Imminent Battle Between Male Lions[/b] Normally I’d say they’re doing a bit too much, but it does seem like both coalitions will eventually have a real conflict, not just back and forth running. Not sure it will happen in Londolozi tho, but more so in Northern Sabi Sands, and I don’t think Kambula / Ntsevu Prides are at risk like they seem to be hinting. 
I do not think they will seriously clash in the next year or so. The PC males already have huge territory and now on top of it they are taking over Othawa and Nkuchuma prides. I would be surpised if they would just abandon it and shift to central Sabi Sands and try to take over Ndzenga's lands, not now at least, maybe in a year or two when their off springs in Othawa and Nkuchuma prides will be sub adults already.
If/when competition between those two happens the PC males should with middle or small difficulty win this. Ndzengas seem to be decent duo, but Plains Camp males seems to be formidable duo and they will probably be too powerfull for Ndzengas to handle. 
Diff actually means Mangheni.
PCMs surprisingly returned to the Manghenis this morning. Joined them on a kill they made afterl chasing away Tumbela (08-26-2024, 02:09 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: Diff actually means Mangheni. Wow this is surprising, they were just in Chitwa and now all the way back West. If they didn’t abandon this pride from the start, they’d still have 10 cubs. Feel like it’s kinda pointless with them chasing off Tumbela if they won’t stick around, nonetheless they see it as defending their territory I guess. @Ngonya u gonna get ur answer to that question u asked about the PCMs reuniting with their cubs. 
I think we would have seen more chaos if the cubs were attacked, so I guess things went well.
Lets hope this means they are going to concentrate on the west again.
I agree with KM600, I think they were just enjoying a meal and chasing Tumbela off to defend their territory and food, it's not like they seek the Manghenis to pay a visit like they do with Ximhungwe, regardless of food involved.
Still this was undoubtedly a good thing, perhaps if Othawas come into estrus to get PCM to stick to the West and Manghenis stay closer to PCM western territory, they can get some more protection than lately. @Potato I agree that there will probably be no serious clash between Ndhzengas and PCM, I'd even be surprised if they have another meeting in the near future, both have huge territories already. But I disagree that Ndhzengas are just decent and PCM much more formidable to a point they could oust them with ease or mid diff. I share the same opinion of Londolozi, PCM looked to be more formidable, being bigger, more aggressive and what not, but Ndhzengas matched them and won their clash, they chased them off, this is something the PCM have never done, beating a prime territorial duo. Ndhzengas have done that against PCM and BDM, and recently their roars made 3 Nkhulu retreat. If serious competition between them happens 2 years from now like you speculate then things may indeed change as Ndhzengas will be old, but if this happens the Ndhzenga legacy will be secure already so a takeover by PCM or any other won't be a bad thing, luckily.
That they met the pride for a second time in a short time now is promising and free food is one of the bigger incentives for males to stick around in general. So there is a good chance they will return again later.
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